4400 industrial hydraulic oil for 3pt

[LD1]

If it is indeed a 4400, it was 1974 and earlier and should have a model code by the starter on a machined flat spot.

Reference this...FORD CODES and SERIAL NUMBERS

 

[LD1]

I am only guessing here, and info is a bit sketchy, but the 4400 was made from 1965-1974

Then I think the 4410 took over after that and ran until 1978

Then it became the 420.

You need to try to find the serial number somewhere. The model ID is probably close to that. And could even be on a tag somewhere. But the serial and model numbers are stamped and NOT cast. The couldnt cast model numbers and serials into the blocks/transmissions cause the same engines and transmissions were used on MANY models. IE: when they were casting YOUR block, they had no idea wether it would end up in a 4000, 420, 4600, or any of a dozen + models that used that engine.

 

[VTPSD]

I found the tag, it was up under the right side hood flap.

 

[LD1]

Figures. IT is a post 1975 tractor. There is literally NO information out there on those model codes.

But all of your date codes point to october-November of 1975. And the serial number does as well. 450000 was beginning of 1975 and 490000 was beginning of 1976.

So you indeed have a 1975 tractor, that is NOT a 4400 cause those ended in 1974. And I dont believe it is a 420 cause they didnt start until 1978.

So my best guess is a 4410???? I think that is the tractor that bridged the gap between the 4400 and 420. But I have no information on them at all. The steering matches the 420 for sure though.

Perhaps RickB will chime in here. He is good with these older fords...

Here is a thread really similar to this one http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...9-ford-industrial-tractor-identification.html

 

[VTPSD]

I did run across that thread, and actually sent a message to the owner of that tractor. He thinks his is a 3550. He says that the 3550 came with a generator from the factory and the 420 came with an alternator. Mine has an alternator, and looks to be a very factory setup. Funny how little information there is on these generation. So many similar models too.

 

[VTPSD]

messicks says the 420 was made from 10/75-9/78. Dont know how accurate they are.

 

[LD1]

messicks says the 420 was made from 10/75-9/78. Dont know how accurate they are.

I dont know either. Tractor data lists it as 1978+.

As to the Alt/Generator. That dont even jive with your serial and date codes. As according to others in that thread, alternators didnt show up on the 3 cylinders until 1976. And your serial and date code clearly point to 1975.

I sent CTphil a PM. He currently lists it as a 3550 in his sig. But I am wondering how he came to that conclusion. Cause he said 3550's had genny's and his had an alternator like yours?? And his serial number places his 1975 as well????

And the plot thickens??

I think at the end of all of this, we are never going to know for sure what you have. Cause there were TOO many similar models and not enough information. But whatever model it is, parts are still readily available, you just may have to browse different sister models till you find the part you actually need you your unknown model??

 

[VTPSD]

Phil told me he thinks his was converted from generator to alternator. I think you are right, I will probably never know for sure. Good thing it looks like most parts are shared with other models.

 

[RickB]

messicks says the 420 was made from 10/75-9/78. Dont know how accurate they are.

You can bet heavily that if there is a discrepancy between Messick's data and Tractordata, Messick's will be correct.

 

[RickB]

Figures. IT is a post 1975 tractor. There is literally NO information out there on those model codes.

But all of your date codes point to october-November of 1975. And the serial number does as well. 450000 was beginning of 1975 and 490000 was beginning of 1976.

So you indeed have a 1975 tractor, that is NOT a 4400 cause those ended in 1974. And I dont believe it is a 420 cause they didnt start until 1978.

So my best guess is a 4410???? I think that is the tractor that bridged the gap between the 4400 and 420. But I have no information on them at all. The steering matches the 420 for sure though.

Perhaps RickB will chime in here. He is good with these older fords...

Here is a thread really similar to this one http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...9-ford-industrial-tractor-identification.html

My money is on this being a 1975 420 Final assembly date of Nov 17, 1975. Not even really open for discussion in my mind. 4410 is a rare variant that only was built through the end of 1974. I've never knowingly laid eyes on one.