the old grind
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Simple version: Pump specs are either/or. Max flow will be at min pressure and vice versa, and both are rated at zero lift (suction height). Actual lift is between static height and the pump. Intake placement should be well off the bottom but remain well below draw-down height. When the latter becomes ~25' or so, cavitation & damage are imminent. The suction hose/pipe might best be sized to the pump's intake port.
I use a HFT 6hp/2" to draw water from the pond with a 2" intake and discarded 1 1/2" fire hoses adapted (barb/clamp) to the slightly different std 1 1/2" (bushed-down) outlet thread. It'll fill a 55 gal drum in < 1min. I get good flow to stands of trees I've planted with 100-150' of the fire hose. This is to flood an area vs running sprinklers etc. Before that I'd use a generator & sump pump in a weighted 5 gal bucket, to draw to the 55-er & dip as needed. That got old fast & I went to the gas pump, though the pond was there & this won't help the OP.
IMO the 8hp/3" pump would not be a good choice if drawing from a 4" well regardless of how deep or how fit that is. Expect it to draw the well down way too quickly and be difficult to predict/control suction with output restrictions. A smaller pressure pump (HFT) & a generator might get you there for a while but would have to be taken to or left on the site.
The 'shallow well/booster' pump (HFT) might work, handier if outlet hoses can be left in place. Trouble with well pumps is that by using split phase motors they demand huge generator capacity to start. A 3k gen might not start a typical 1/2 - 3/4 hp well pump as one would expect by its (motor's) rated amperage, tho' internally (Honda) vs externally regulated (HFT, many others) would do better per rated kw. Too bad the low-flow high-pressure pump I'd recommend for sprinklers doesn't have a gas version. Running electricity way out back would require too heavy a gauge wire ($$) to carry adequate current the distance.
It'd help if we knew the size of the garden to be irrigated, & this mish-mash might be irrelevant considering that, but this could be a tough one to pull off with even the best help. I'll leave the bigger details/explanations to those who've managed using a similarly remote water source. btw: sure hope raccoons don't eat/flatten that corn before the harvest. (BTDT)
I use a HFT 6hp/2" to draw water from the pond with a 2" intake and discarded 1 1/2" fire hoses adapted (barb/clamp) to the slightly different std 1 1/2" (bushed-down) outlet thread. It'll fill a 55 gal drum in < 1min. I get good flow to stands of trees I've planted with 100-150' of the fire hose. This is to flood an area vs running sprinklers etc. Before that I'd use a generator & sump pump in a weighted 5 gal bucket, to draw to the 55-er & dip as needed. That got old fast & I went to the gas pump, though the pond was there & this won't help the OP.
IMO the 8hp/3" pump would not be a good choice if drawing from a 4" well regardless of how deep or how fit that is. Expect it to draw the well down way too quickly and be difficult to predict/control suction with output restrictions. A smaller pressure pump (HFT) & a generator might get you there for a while but would have to be taken to or left on the site.
The 'shallow well/booster' pump (HFT) might work, handier if outlet hoses can be left in place. Trouble with well pumps is that by using split phase motors they demand huge generator capacity to start. A 3k gen might not start a typical 1/2 - 3/4 hp well pump as one would expect by its (motor's) rated amperage, tho' internally (Honda) vs externally regulated (HFT, many others) would do better per rated kw. Too bad the low-flow high-pressure pump I'd recommend for sprinklers doesn't have a gas version. Running electricity way out back would require too heavy a gauge wire ($$) to carry adequate current the distance.
It'd help if we knew the size of the garden to be irrigated, & this mish-mash might be irrelevant considering that, but this could be a tough one to pull off with even the best help. I'll leave the bigger details/explanations to those who've managed using a similarly remote water source. btw: sure hope raccoons don't eat/flatten that corn before the harvest. (BTDT)
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