rScotty
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- Kubota M59, JD530, JD310SG. Restoring Yanmar YM165D
Can someone enlighten me on API oil certifications?
I'm trying to decide how to view the Kubota spec in my owner's manual. For the M59 it says that CJ-4 type oil is specifically not allowed because of the filter type on the M59...and it says CF-4, CG-4 and CH-4 cannot be used in engines with external EGR valves - which the M59 does have. That only leaves as allowable diesel engine oils that are CF or CI-4.
Here's what is confusing me... If an oil meets CI-4 but also the other ratings then which one dominates? My favorite is Shell Rotella T - which meets all of the required ratings but also meets all the ratings which are not allowed! Searching around, I have found that there are some oils with a narrower rating range - for example one which will meet CI-4 without also meeting CJ-4, but those types of oils are not easily found. It's possible that they just didn't test it for CJ-4 compliance... So I'm not sure whether an oil that meets CI-4 but also has the other ratings qualifies or not. ?
Does anyone know a petroleum API specialist who could answer these questions? Or does anyone have a copy of the engineering requirements behind the API ratings and I'll try to figure it out myself if. Hmmm....I'm guessing API provides the technical requirements for the different ratings to someone. I'll ask....
Thanks, rScotty
I'm trying to decide how to view the Kubota spec in my owner's manual. For the M59 it says that CJ-4 type oil is specifically not allowed because of the filter type on the M59...and it says CF-4, CG-4 and CH-4 cannot be used in engines with external EGR valves - which the M59 does have. That only leaves as allowable diesel engine oils that are CF or CI-4.
Here's what is confusing me... If an oil meets CI-4 but also the other ratings then which one dominates? My favorite is Shell Rotella T - which meets all of the required ratings but also meets all the ratings which are not allowed! Searching around, I have found that there are some oils with a narrower rating range - for example one which will meet CI-4 without also meeting CJ-4, but those types of oils are not easily found. It's possible that they just didn't test it for CJ-4 compliance... So I'm not sure whether an oil that meets CI-4 but also has the other ratings qualifies or not. ?
Does anyone know a petroleum API specialist who could answer these questions? Or does anyone have a copy of the engineering requirements behind the API ratings and I'll try to figure it out myself if. Hmmm....I'm guessing API provides the technical requirements for the different ratings to someone. I'll ask....
Thanks, rScotty