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David USMC

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Mt Pilot North Carolina
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Jd 345
My head is about to explode....need help. I'm considering purchasing a JD 4200 vs a Kubota 7500. Both would have a front end loader, a 60 inch mower, and a 50 inch tiller. The cost differece is 4000 grand. I like JD and feel a loyalty to their product. My dilemma is that I only have an acre and a half to mow with a small garden to till. Of course the garden may grow and the grass may shrink. The loader is primarily a toy to spread mulch etc. Please give me insight and guidance. Horsepower is nice but, money may be better..Thank You.
 
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David,
In my semi-experienced opinion the JD 4200 is way more machine than you need for 1 1/2 acres. For what you said you needed to do my New Holland TC 18 for thousands less would do all of it and more, or even a Kubota B1700. I know others have lots of HP per acre but I can still grunt like Tim the Toolman Taylor on my 18.5 hp diesel! JimBinMI
 
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I think I'd also seriously consider a Kubota BX1800 or 2200 for a place that size.

Bird
 
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david - of course my learned friend Jim is correct, "even" my B1700 could do what you need. His prettyboy swoopy fendered plastic bodied pansy little TC18 will also get the job done, but the grunting Jim refers to is from pushing the d*mned thing back to the garage after it dies out in the field /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif. In all seriousness, unless you just plain old want a bigger machine, the new BX is custom made for you, and will run only a bit over 12K with everything you want.
 
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I only saw the BX series once..then they all got sold. My dealer however pointed out some details that troubled me about the BX. First...no seperate l/r brake petals, 6 inch ground clearance, standard duty hydro vs high output on the others,single air filter vs dual, suspended mower deck vs ground contact on other models. 400lbs more three pt lift capacity. These details are what turned my attention to the 7500. Thanks again for your imput.
 
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I would go with the Kubota 7500 or NH tc18, the BX's look a beefed up garden tractor
 
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Paul...PAUL!!
Wake up, you're dreaming AGAIN! Since I beat you in our last virtual race. Now it's time for a pulling contest. We have solidly attached our 3 pt. hitches together and will commence with a pulling contest. You have the advantage because I believe you have R4 tires and I have turfs. Ready, set go................Paul starts pulling the TC a bit but what's that, what is Jim doing, operating his 3 pt. lift, Paul, your rear tires are starting to spin! With the superior 3 pt. lift capacity of the TC (as per specs) Jim lifts the rear of the B1700 off the ground and pulls him wherever he wants to!!/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif I know, you say not fair, Paul only has 17 hp and Jim has 18.5, well bring on the B2100, I can do the same to it! New Holland TC 18 MORE BANG FOR THE BUCK!! MORE SHOW, MORE GO!!/w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif
Paul, the balls back in your court now! This is way more fun than it should be!/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif JimBinMI
 
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Hello David.
Yes there is alot issues to consider when buying a tractor,attachments,type of land,pulling trailers or carts,weights for the front end loader,tire chains etc...
Do you also have cold weather and snow where you live?
If so you might want to think about a heater for the engine.
When I went shopping for my tractor I had a list of what I wanted also the type of work the tractor must do,plus in sight from my friends.
I talk with J.D. Ford,Kubota dealers,and here a little helpful hint.
Yes sit on the tractor you like,but also drive the tractor and get a feel on how it handles.
If the dealer shy away from letting try it out than that will tell you about his dealership.....mmmm.
Think about by automatic instead of a standard shift,you won't be sorry if you have a front loader.
You are planning to pull a trailer or cart etc...
Yes four thousand dollar is just as good in your pocket that a dealers,and with that four thousand dollar you can buy more goodies for your tractor.
Let me know what you decided to purchase for I'm interested.
Take care and have fun buying your tractor.
 
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David - PaulB again. where are you located? If you are near Syracuse New York, come on over and drive my B1700 for a couple hours, move some dirt, scare yourself on some slopes. PERSONALLY I still think the BX is the way to go, but its your $, so kick a few tires and see what you like. Maybe Jim B in michigan will let you try out his TC when it comes back from the shop again.
 
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The BX availability seems to be an issue. The BX is a lighter-duty than other compacts on the market. But the again, you don't pay for the additional power/features that you may never need. As a homeowner on about 2 acres, some of those disadvantages I see as advantages. Or, are features that I wasn't willing to pay for given my own needs.

No separate break petals. If its break turning that your looking for, given its size, radius and the PS, don't feel it needs it. Now this depends on how tight of a turn you will require.

Six-inches clearance is more than adequate for me. Since my property has been cleared and established during the years, I'm not going over rough grades nor stumps hidden in the grass. I will say this, having used only a lawn tractor prior BX purchase, the additional height makes me shaky at times as I get use to it. If I was on a higher tractor, I think I would need a sedative (this comes into play with hills).

Hydo capability. For the hours I put on it, and for my uses, it's been fine. The hydro has been strong enough to break earth with the loader, run a blade for grading, and use a middle plow. Same point on the air-filters. The machine is not being used for 40 hours a week at a construction site under dirty conditions.

Suspended deck. Actually, many turf specialist have touted suspended decks for a better finish cut (maintains a relative levelness not influenced by the little bumps and ridges which tilt the deck from ground contact). Once again, for my property and needs, I have an established lawn, not a field. If the deck really bothers you, can always opt for a rear deck.

Lift capacity. Sure is less, but it's one of those factors that we all have to decided what we need, and how much we are willing to pay for. From experience, it has lifted everything that I have required from it, including scoops full of hard compressed dirt. (Once again, the loader lift capacity is less than others, but the cubic volume is also less. So I don't think I could fill it beyond it's lift force).

Don't know if the BX is the solution for you. It doesn't fit everyone's needs (nothing worse than buying a tractor that can't do what we wanted it to). But I wouldn't dismiss it automatically on the points mentioned. We each have to ask ourselves what do we really need, what will we pay for, and are we paying for features that don't apply to us.
 
 
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