Gordon Gould
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ceiling joists and collar ties are two different structural members and are subject to differnt types of loads and resistances.
collar ties are generally placed 1/3 of the total height* below the ridge and help prevent the walls/beams from being forced outward.
ceiling joists are basically non structural and are for the most part deadwood to support the ceiling although their tensil strength does add to the overall strength of the structure.* heigth from top of wall/beam to top of ridge.
I would strongly disagree with this statement for a building in VT where you need a 40 or 50 lb/sq ft roof system. A building with standard rafters and no joists to hold the plates together would split right apart. Your right that collar ties help but they won't do the job. The purpose of a collar tie is to hold the tops of the rafters together in high winds. Needed on steeper roofs because you get an airplane wing lift effect on the roof which tries to pull the tops of the rafters away from the ridge pole.