JCByrd24
Gold Member
crazyal said:If you go to VW's web site so you can compare apples to apples they say that the gas version of the Jetta gets 34/24 while the diesel gets 42/30. That's about 8 mpg different, about 1200 gallons over 200k miles. Once you add in the price difference for the diesel it's a wash. If, like in the US, Diesel costs more than gas it doesn't pay for itself. I did notice that VW now offers the Jetta with a gas Hybrid option that gets about 6 more mpg over the diesel. Kind of makes you wonder if diesel engines will ever become viable in cars when VW realizes that for the same money they can sell a gas/ electric hybrid that gets better mileage.
Epa ratings aren't apples to apples though. We owned a 2010 gas jetta for 3 months, never saw more than 31 mpg, even pure highway. Put 7000 miles on in those three months. Knew tdi owners getting 45 mpg all the time. Should have bought the diesel!!. We now own the 2012 tdi, never seen below 42 average, and have averaged 50 in the summer on trips. That's easily over 2000 gallons at 200k miles, which these engines are known to do easily. That more than pays for the difference, plus the package is better and the driving experience is better.
Comparing to a hybrid is silly. First, totally agree about the environmental impact of batteries. I'm no expert but what I've heard isn't good. Their longevity isn't comparable to a tdi either I don't think. Finally, the driving experience is not the same. I've driven a Prius for a week and it wasnt horrible, but it is an econo car and i found it no fun. plus no manual trans option. As I said in my original post, it's the torque with the mileage that sells vw tdi's. if you ask you local dealer I bet they'll tell you they sell themselves.