Drive System Fluid Plus/Hydro-Gear Question?

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wojnaroski

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Beating the same old horse again.

Do all Hydro-gear transmissions use the same fluid? If so, has anyone priced fluid from other sources? How can I be sure that it is the same fluid as the cc brand?

I emailed Hydro-gear, still waiting to hear.

Eagerly awaiting any info. Thanks, Alan
 
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My follow up with Shell about the TTF-SB fluid goes as follows:

<font color="blue"> </font> Lawn and garden equipment using Hydro-Gear Corporation gearboxes and
transaxles. This would probably include at least some models from
Scotts, Poulan, MTD and likely others (for example, Ariens, Bolens, etc.).

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Wojnaroski [mailto:alanwojnaroski@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 8:06 PM
To: askshell GSUSI-GSMF/5
Subject: RE: TTF-SB


Could you please tell me which manufacturers use this
product so that I may try to obtain the best pricing?

Thank you for your time and effort.

--- askshell GSUSI-GSMF/5 <AskShell@Shell.com> wrote:

> Dear Mr. Wojnaroski,
> Unfortunately, the TTF-SB product was made
> exclusively for some equipment manufacturers and
> Shell does not market the product commercially. If
> you have equipment that is calling for the TTF-SB,
> the original equipment manufacturer would be your
> source for this product.
>
> Thank you for your inquiry and interest in Shell
> lubricants!
>
> Sincerely,
> Richard Bahnke
> http://www.shell-lubricants.com
>
>
>
> Below is the result of your feedback form. It was
> submitted by
> Alan Wojnaroski (alanwojnaroski@yahoo.com) on
> Monday, January 02, 2006 at
> 21:44:09


I have had no luck in getting anywhere with any of the other manufacturers as yet.

Alan
 
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Yep. I went thru the same exact thing about a year ago. HG gave me the same line. I emailed Shell. They sent me a spec sheet for the Shell TTF-SB. I spent a ton of time trying to match the specs up with an off the shelf oil and was unsuccessful. HG and Shell were excellent & super easy to deal with, but neither one wants to put themselves at risk giving an aftermarket recommendation. I can totally understand that. The newer CC HG drives are basically off the shelf units. All HG's that I am aware use motor oil in the 40wt range. Typically 15w-40. Shell & HG were so cool to deal with that I don't mind spending the extra for the CC stuff. You rarely have to change it anyway.

Joel
 
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Thanks for the reply.

Yep, saw that. How about Hy-Gard pt# TY6354 from John Deere? Seems to meet all the same criteria. About $14 a gallon.

I agree, you do not have to change often, it's just that I am stubborn and would like a less costly alternative. Also, I do use my machine hard and do not like to wait for a suggested maintenance schedule. Oil should be a cheap maintenance item.

Thanks, Alan
 
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Alan, I dunno how the specs line up between the cub stuff and the JD stuff, but I bet it would work just fine. There is nothing magical about the HG drive and simple rear diff our 2500's have. I also *think* a good synthetic 5w-40 or 15w-40 would work perfectly too (Shell Rotella-T would be my choice). Again, just a theory!! I'm not gonna change until way beyond my warranty. Even so, I only clock about 40-50hrs/yr, so trans oil changes dont happen too often. I dumped the whole thing at 10hrs last year and wont do a complete dump and refill for a few more years yet.

Joel
 
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Joel,

I have the 5254 now and work it hard. Not abuse, just hard. I do a lot of pulling and work with a 5' box scraper. Have loged about 60 hours in the last year. Just out of the one year warranty this month. Looked at the oil and not happy with the looks. Again, some would say looks mean nothing, but oil should be cheap and changed often (according to me). Looks black with grey streaks in it, dealer says probably has water in it from condensation. Changed the filters the other day, least I could do.

Alan
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Joel,

I have the 5254 now and work it hard. Not abuse, just hard. I do a lot of pulling and work with a 5' box scraper. Have loged about 60 hours in the last year. Just out of the one year warranty this month. Looked at the oil and not happy with the looks. Again, some would say looks mean nothing, but oil should be cheap and changed often (according to me). Looks black with grey streaks in it, dealer says probably has water in it from condensation. Changed the filters the other day, least I could do.

Alan )</font>

That dosent sound right - i would change it...I have seen 5000 series machines with a lot more hours, and basically looks new (clean and clear).....IMO
 
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I agree. That oil shouldn't look like that with that low of hours. Milky/grey would indicate water contamination. My 2544 is a totally different machine, but the drive system fluid plus looks as clear as cooking oil @ 50hrs.

Joel
 
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According to the manual there is 20 quarts of oil in the trans. Can you imagine the cost at $9 a quart? Would not want to replace every year at that price. Still checking on an alternative to CCDSFP.

Will let everyone know when I have exhaused every resource.

Thanks, Alan
 

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