ELIO - has anybody driven one ? (84mpg)

   / ELIO - has anybody driven one ? (84mpg)
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#101  
Thanks for posting those pics HHR.

Given how quickly tires dry rot these days, the mostly enclosed tires may be an additional benefit, beyond just the aero aspects....

(I was checking a tire for a friend of my wife's recently; severe sidewall cracking on a tire that was made just a little over 3 years ago. Goodyear all-season.).

Rgds, D.
 
   / ELIO - has anybody driven one ? (84mpg) #102  
Back in January, they reported money still needed ranged from $175 million to $240 million. And, depending on the news report, if you made a deposit, there was no guarantee the car would ever see production, nor the deposit would be refunded. With the delays and, now, ethics probe, local people are becoming more skeptical and pessimistic about the jobs promised and the number of units that can realistically be sold (and the profit per car).

Here are some local articles from the past year from KSLA TV:
Search - KSLA News 12 Shreveport, Louisiana News Weather & Sports

May 22, 2015 Ethics probe:
Caddo commissioner requests ethics opinion on conflict of interest concerns related to Elio

Caddo commissioner requests ethics opinion on conflict of intere - KSLA News 12 Shreveport, Louisiana News Weather & Sports

CADDO PARISH, LA (KSLA) -

Critics of Elio Motors say the promise of hundreds of good paying jobs, and the long-anticipated arrival of the three wheeled car have grown stale over time.

Now, some are getting anxious about the return on their investment and they're also upset that an elected official may be profiting before others.

2015 was finally supposed to be the year of Elio, but now it's looking like 2016. District 8 Caddo Commissioner John Escude isn't waiting. He's already working at the plant for a company called Comau.

We're told the company is connected to Elio Motors and some believe it's a conflict of interest.

His seat was empty on Thursday, but earlier in May Escude announced that he has requested an ethics opinion regarding the conflict of interest accusations surrounding his position on the board and his connection to Elio Motors.

"The last regular session meeting he actually said that he volunteered to do his own investigation. Well, do an investigation through the attorney general's office, said commission president Lyndon Johnson.

This comes after citizens expressed their concerns about a commissioner holding a job with a company associated with Elio before they hire anyone else.

"There have not been any jobs produced and it doesn't look like any jobs are coming," said Lester Smith.

Smith is with "Citizens for Change" and he feels it wasn't right for commissioner Escude to vote on the $7.5 million purchase of the General Motors plant and then accept employment at the plant. However, Johnson says the money used to purchase the plant was an investment and has nothing to do with Elio.

"If they don't become a tenant of the building, we still purchased the building for Caddo Parish, said Johnson.

Smith says promises were made, "we've yet to see the job, but he has a job out at the plant that was supposed to hire 1,500 people that was the promise.

Elio motors was expected to become the tenant when commissioners voted 11 to 1 in favor of using tax-payers money to purchase the building and with no jobs in sight, smith says he just wants justice.

"That is a conflict of interest, I don't care how you slice it or how you dice it," said Smith.

Commission president Johnson says whether Elio becomes the tenant or not, jobs will be brought to Shreveport and the investment won't be in vain.

The "Citizens of Change" have also reached out to the state board of ethics regarding Escude.
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Louisiana is a different world. When you cross the state line, similar to the twilight zone, time and life ifs just different. When Edwin Edwards won re-election, in 1983, campaign organization transported 617 loyalists, public officials and members of the press to France, with side trips to Monaco and Belgium. Thus was a $4.4-million campaign debt discharged, in the spirit of laissez les bons temps rouler.

He chartered two 747s, designated Gabriel and Evangeline for the Cajun-flavored occasion, to carry all the people who were up to spending a week tracing Louisiana's roots back to the Eiffel Tower, the Brussels City Hall, the Crazy Horse Saloon, the Hotel George V and other points of interest. and flew, with friends, to Monte Carlo with champagne.

When outside, national media attempted to get locals to chide him for spending state money for the victory trip. The media was invited to leave and not stick their noses into Louisiana politics...by those who were being interviewed. It's a magical place....very independent..very fun...thus Mardi Gras.
 
   / ELIO - has anybody driven one ? (84mpg)
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Corruption around here has a different flavour (scandals start at $1billion, and, sadly, few people take notice any more.....). Unfortunately, for most things to move forward, the skids have to be greased somehow.... otherwise inertia remains....

I used to spend my time in the tech sector, so "Real Soon Now....." is all too familiar. Back-room pocket lining aside, I am concerned about momentum winding down on this launch - specifically the new engine. There has been a distinct lack of news this year on their engine milestones - next to Financing, this is likely the biggest challenge at the moment.

Rgds, D.
 
   / ELIO - has anybody driven one ? (84mpg) #104  
I know a guy who has a deposit one one. After reading this thread I doubt he will ever get his money back. So many red flags.
 
   / ELIO - has anybody driven one ? (84mpg) #105  
I know a guy who has a deposit one one. After reading this thread I doubt he will ever get his money back. So many red flags.
I put a $100 non-refundable deposit down on one. I figured that I have "wasted" $100 on more trivial things. Starting up as a new automaker has to be one of the hardest ventures and I'm willing to wait it out.
 
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I follow some mechanical news, but hadn't seen this before:

Ultra High Mileage Car : Elio Motors

Has anybody driven one ?

If they can hold onto anything like the price they are talking about, this is going to sell well.

Obviously it won't pull a tri-axle trailer, but if you have a lift gate on the one ton, why not just haul a spare vehicle instead of a spare tire ?
:p

Rgds, D.

I've thought that if I've got to have a funky, little, open-wheel, street-legal car, an Atom would do.

 
   / ELIO - has anybody driven one ? (84mpg)
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#108  

Lots of things get crowd-funded today.... so I don't see any real reason that this project shouldn't.

I'd be surprised if the helmet requirement gets traction elsewhere; while I'd never ride a MC w/o one, I don't see the need on an enclosed platform like this one.

R&D tax credits get wasted on junk throwaway projects all the time..... if your feds were really serious about reducing oil consumption, you'd think they'd give a startup like this some meaningful breaks.....

Rgds, D.
 
   / ELIO - has anybody driven one ? (84mpg)
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#109  
I've thought that if I've got to have a funky, little, open-wheel, street-legal car, an Atom would do.


Yeah..... that's always been a cool platform to drool over.....

While I could afford an Elio, the Atom would be much more of a stretch for me...... that's the tough part of the Elio game..... while not easy, IMO it is easier to launch a high performance boutique platform, than a low cost/high volume one...

Rgds, D.
 
 
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