Flexible top link for bush hog?

   / Flexible top link for bush hog? #21  
I've got a 2 year old Woods BB840 mower. It has a built-in flexable link where your chains are located. I routinely mow the dam to a pond on my farm. I start at the top, turn left, and drop down the dam. At the bottom, I end up in a position about like your picture. Without that much "flex", there'd be some bent parts.

For the life of me, I can't imagine RIGID mounted mowers working on even the flattest of land.
 
   / Flexible top link for bush hog? #22  
I think the tires would save you only if lift arms didn't extend past them. Look at the angle in Beenthere's pic. Might could get a tailwheel toupee even with ROPS. I haven't been nailed by a cutter either, but have had rear of one come up about 3' when hanging the front edge on a stump.
 
   / Flexible top link for bush hog? #23  
If you look at that picture of the JD LX6, I think you'll see that the top part of the linkage frame on the LX6 will keep it from flipping up. The top part of the frame will hit the back of the tractor before the main part of the brush hog will. Some brush hogs will be different, of course, and maybe allow the frame of the brush hog or PTO to bounce all the way up to the operator, but it's very likely a stretch for this to happen to most (think the PTO shaft will maybe even keep this from happening).

The linkage on my LX4 is identical to that on the LX6. It IS NOT flexible enough for the hills and uneven terrain that I run it over. I have a chain attached between tractor and LX4 most of the time. The chain is short enough to keep the LX4 from dropping off the side of a creek bank but will allow the blade to dig into the dirt when the wheel on the LX4 goes off the bank or into a hole. Unless one hits a rock, there's no problem. The hydraulics just slow the blade down (a big rock will, too). Maybe if you had a really high hp tractor, you might have to worry over this more.

I keep both the chain and the top link attached onto the top link part of the LX4; they fit side by side. I can very easily disconnect the chain from the tractor and swing the top link over and connect it for transport or for when I need the full weight of the LX4 back there to counteract weight in the FEL.

Ralph
 
   / Flexible top link for bush hog? #24  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( The linkage on my LX4 is identical to that on the LX6. It IS NOT flexible enough for the hills and uneven terrain that I run it over. I have a chain attached between tractor and LX4 most of the time. The chain is short enough to keep the LX4 from dropping off the side of a creek bank but will allow the blade to dig into the dirt when the wheel on the LX4 goes off the bank or into a hole.)</font>

That's confusing to me. I'm just not sure I understand the need for a chain if you already have a floating top link. It just seems to me that if you have the top link on your 3pt hitch set correctly you don't need a chain to limit downward travel of the mower.

When I hook mine up I set the mowing height to nearly the lowest point that I'll likely need with the floating top link in the centered position as shown in the diagram. Then I set the top link on the tractor so that it will allow the mower to drop down only as far as the play in the floating top link and no further. This way the mower can drop a small amount to follow the terrain, but will not drop down enough to scalp even if you pass over a hole or little valley.

Works for me anyway.
 
   / Flexible top link for bush hog? #25  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( if the back goes up, the deck cannot pivot on the lower pins due to the rigid 3rd link connection.

Sure it can, the three point has ball joints at each end of all three links. A top fex joint just makes this movement much easier, preventing undo stress on the rigid struts of the cutter.
)</font>

Hook up your 3pt mower. now.. lift up on the back of the mower.. the back of the mower -cannot- flip up ant have the front pivot on the lower 2 arms and have the tailwheel touch the canopy of your tractor _with_ the toplink in place. The toplink will make the mower lift up on a close to level plane, instead of pivoting on the 2 lower arms and flipping up.

That's what I'm saying. The ball swivel ends have nothing to do with the picture. The flexible portion of the toplink just gives that much more play when lifting or dropping.

Soundguy
 
   / Flexible top link for bush hog? #26  
The purpose of the chain instead of the top link is to allow the brush hog to move UP more than the flexible top link will allow. I've had the tractor move completely off its rear wheels before I went to the chain in place of the top link. There's only about 2" flex in either direction (up/down) on the LX4/6 linkage. This is not enough for really uneven terrain. I just mentioned the length of the chain to only allow the brush hog to drop a limited amount. Another limit on the chain length might be to keep the PTO from hitting the deck. You want it short enough to keep this from happening.

I'll make another pitch here. The IDEAL top link would be something like an automotive shock absorber.

Ralph
 
   / Flexible top link for bush hog? #27  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( There's only about 2" flex in either direction (up/down) on the LX4/6 linkage. This is not enough for really uneven terrain. )</font>

While I haven't measured the flex, I'd say I've got considerably more than a total of 4 inches, and quite frankly, it has worked perfectly in my one month of ownership and has done so on terrain as rough as I can imagine using a mower on.

But, that's neither here nor there, a chain will certainly allow more upward travel and you are quite right about a shock type assembly being the ideal.
 
   / Flexible top link for bush hog? #28  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( IDEAL top link would be something like an automotive shock absorber )</font>

Or a hydraulic top link that could be put in float when not 'traveling' with the cutter raised.
 
   / Flexible top link for bush hog? #29  
I saw a bush hog stand on its end once, but it did not hit the operator. Both lower link pins fell off and caused it stick on a stump. The upper link kept it from hitting the tractor.

Solo
 
   / Flexible top link for bush hog? #30  
I have a caught the front edge of the bushhog on a stump and had the tail wheel kick before.


I've also had the flexible link "bottom out" and shove the tractor around. The tailwheel is so far out it puts a tremendous load on the toplink when it can't lift higher without lifting the whole deck. This is especially true when mowing quickly in a field hitting chuckholes etc.
 
 
 
Top