IMHO, I agree with the folks that are encouraging you to get one for it's tool value. Most people have a tilt meter built into their gut that will go off long before your brain will register a problem on an instrument./w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif I also agree that after you learn your property, unless you go somewhere else, you may never need it for roll over prevention again. Plus, as you point out, you will never know the precise angle that will cause you to go over under all conditions. If you become dependent on the instrument, it could lead you astray under varying load conditions. In the mean time if you find yourself holding on to the uphill side of the seat, start worrying./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif