Kubota or mahindra

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

I dont think RichnMo ever said what his leak down rate was. Therefore I have no idea and cannot form an opinion whether or not I would consider it acceptable or whether its a gross overreaction by a customer who thinks a loader should stay up indefinitely and never drop even an inch.

It's true he didn't and I agree that information is pertinent. I welcome him to do that.

 

[LD1]

It's true he didn't and I agree that information is pertinent. I welcome him to do that.

Im curious myself.

I mean...if this thing was dropping like a foot every 20 min or so and you constantly had to bump it up while working...and deere left you hanging....yea thats a legit gripe.

But ...coming on here to try and give deere a black eye, because it drifts down at 1.5" per hour, and you just want something for nothing or have other regrets....thats a whole different story.

Sadly we dont know which story is closer to the truth

 

[CoryB]

I have one neighbor with a Kubota and one with a Mahindra. I don’t know the particular models of either.

The Kubota is always around and doing various tasks. I rarely see the Mahindra unless it is on the back of a tow truck going to be repaired. Again.

Now, to be fair, the Mahindra owner is known to be rough on his equipment but I have to think there is more to it than just the way he treats it.

 

[rScotty]

I have one neighbor with a Kubota and one with a Mahindra. I don’t know the particular models of either.

The Kubota is always around and doing various tasks. I rarely see the Mahindra unless it is on the back of a tow truck going to be repaired. Again.

Now, to be fair, the Mahindra owner is known to be rough on his equipment but I have to think there is more to it than just the way he treats it.

Yes, there are very different philosophies on how to buy and use tools. It would be boring if there were not.

 

[RichnMo]

Thanks for your reply about this and I am sorry to hear about your experience. When companies like Deere sell a product that is inferior and underperforms, saying the performance is normal is their go to answer to weasel out. This is not the first time I have heard a story like this on TBN and this is why I strongly believe a product needs to be demoed before purchase.

Your absolutely correct, unfortunately most dealers don't have a unit to demo other than purchasing it.

 

[jyoutz]

And then pay $1500-$3000 more for your tractor 0% is a scam..

$1500 over 84 months = $17.85/month. I think I can handle that.

 

[coobie]

$1500 over 84 months = $17.85/month. I think I can handle that.

My old hillbilly buddy used to say don't care how much it costs just tell me the monthly payment.

 

[LD1]

My old hillbilly buddy used to say don't care how much it costs just tell me the monthly payment.

That was always my attitude when car shopping.

I dont care what you "show" on paper you are giving me for my trade. I dont care what you "show" on paper the selling price to be. I dont care what you "show" on paper the interest rate to be.

At the end of the day......monthy payment x number of months (plus a down payment if applicable) is what I am going to be paying. THATS what I care about. You can fudge the numbers on paper all you want to try and "sell" me on what a good deal you are making. But thats all I care about...what I am :actually" paying

 

[RichnMo]

Everyones opinion on how much bleeding down is acceptable is different.

The ONLY one that matters is what the valve manufacture specifies.

There are NO seals in the spools on a hydraulic valve. IT is just very tight tolerance metal on metal. So they ALL will leak down eventually. But is it a foot a week or a foot a minute?

What a valve manufacture rates it at is gonna be a given amount of fluid (in CC's or ounces) over a given time at a given pressure.
With some math....based on cylinder sizes and oil volume in said cylinder....you can convert that to loader movement in which is deem acceptable over a period of time.

JD service manuals probably have that information spelled out. But if it were mine, I would have specifically asked what is "acceptable". Then actually take a measurement on YOUR machine and see if it is within their allowable spec or not.

You made NO mention at all how fast your loader would "creep" down. Without knowing that its hard for me to form an opinion on your situation

Well put it this way, the dealer told me to never park under the loader bucket as they had another gentleman's bucket that went through his windshield by the next day ! And minutes after shutting off my tractor with the bucket up you could hear a constant creaking sound as it began to leak down.

 

[paulfun9]

That was always my attitude when car shopping.

I dont care what you "show" on paper you are giving me for my trade. I dont care what you "show" on paper the selling price to be. I dont care what you "show" on paper the interest rate to be.

At the end of the day......monthy payment x number of months (plus a down payment if applicable) is what I am going to be paying. THATS what I care about. You can fudge the numbers on paper all you want to try and "sell" me on what a good deal you are making. But thats all I care about...what I am :actually" paying

My observations and experiance your approach is why so many pay too much for things.
I don’t know one person that’s gotten a good deal with this type of thinking. My brother in law who was a car salesman is here and when I read your post to him, his reaction was “ a salesman’s dream” “ wish All my customers would have had that attitude”
That speaks volumes and tell my why my monthly payments for the few things I financed were alway much lower than those around me!