Learning about the stock market

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   / Learning about the stock market #21  
I have managed my own investments for over 25 years. Mostly mutual funds with some stocks focusing on stability and dividends. Watch fund expenses but analyze cost vs. returns. I have a Morningstar Premium Subscription and manage my portfolio through that resource and also use info from my brokerage.
 
   / Learning about the stock market #22  
My best advice after being in mutual funds and a few stocks for the past 50+ years is to not panic and sell in a down market and not try to time the market. Having said that, I did manage to get out before the dot com bubble burst and then back in later but that was just dumb luck. Held on to everything through the '08 crash and have never seen anything like the current boom. It's scary to think about either getting out or staying in as if your betting your life's savings everyday in Vegas. Imagine plunking down 10 or 20 years of your annual income on a roulette table. (That's probably an extreme analogy)
The thing that, to me, has changed the most in the last fifty years is interest rates. There was a time in the mid seventies where you could take $10,000 to the bank and earn nearly 20% interest. Now we're lucking to get 1%. That said, the inflation rate was also much higher back then. Hoping to leave some for the kids as this economy is probably going to get even tougher for them.
 
   / Learning about the stock market #23  
My advice is avoid individual stocks. Can be big rewards, but also big risk. Spread out your risk with a no-load mutual fund that tracks the market, lots of them track the S&P.

As some other posters have said, I agree. IMHO, the great majority of individual investors are not well equipped and don't have the resources to evaluate and monitor individual stocks. I manage our investments and invest only in no-load mutual funds or exchange traded funds (ETFs). I am retired and we are very comfortable due to having saved the maximum we could for many years in IRAs, 401(k) plans, etc. Our main investment-advisory resources are the Morningstar premium subscription, Bob Brinker's Market Timer publication, our account reps at Schwab and Fidelity (and through them access to specialists in their firms, such as specialists in bond funds), and the research resources available on the Schwab and Fidelity web sites. Numerous studies support the conclusion that the expenses charged by a mutual fund or ETF are a major factor in long-term investment success. A good part of our investments are in index funds with very low expenses, and I always check the expenses in actively managed funds. IMHO, diversification is important. Our investments are spread among all categories of funds (large cap, mid cap, small cap, growth, value, blended, bond funds, and recently some 12-month USA treasury bonds). About 25% of our stock funds are foreign at this point. FWIW, I don't try to "time" the market--pick when to sell and when to buy large amounts--but I have started taking some money out of the USA stock market, a little at a time. If anyone is interested in timing the market, Bob Brinker is the only advisor I know of who has correctly called all or almost all of the major times to sell or buy in the last 20 years. All just my 2 cents' worth (arguably not worth even that much).
 
   / Learning about the stock market #25  
There are two concepts to learn about. The risk/reward idea, and that what comes up must go down.
Read a lot. Not just sales pitches from companies that want your money and will tell you what a great job they'll do for you, but also more objective stuff like Morningstar and the Wall Street Journal. You need to familiarize yourself with how the system works in good times like now, and in bad times. My son did well as an investment advisor for a large company that's now part of Wells Fargo, but after his death his company went to high fee products. Good for the company, not always so good for the investor. The advisor I inherited is of the get rich slowly school; it works (Risk/Reward). Learn some about balancing your portfolio or harvesting some of your profits and parking them in safe investments. Not everything, just harvest some of your fruit and don't get greedy. Pigs get fat, hogs get butchered.
The past year has been phenomenal for investments, remember that bubbles burst. I lost 7 figures in an investment company I managed when the tech bubble burst. Firing that broker was one of the more satisfying moments of my life. We didn't lose everything but it took a long time to get back to even; lessons can be expensive.
You probably aren't approaching retirement age for a long time so you have the time value of money working for you. Over the many decades I've been an investor I've seen boom and bust but overall a nice steady gain that allowed me to retire at an obscenely early age and devote more time to farming which sure as shooting isn't a get rich quick job for most of us.
I also like what Will Rogers said in the 1920's. "Buy land. They stopped making it." He is also credited with an old joke. The broker showed me his yacht at the marina. I asked where the customers yachts were.
 
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Some things I have learned about the stock market:

Individual stock trading - You will be competing against professionals who have been trading stocks all day long for years - How smart are you and how quickly can you learn this. Also, legal or not, people have inside information that drives the market.

Mutual Funds and Money Managers - In a given year, because of fees, 70% to 80% of funds and managers will underperform a no-load index fund. Over a longer period a higher percentage will underperform index funds. Most of my stock market investment is now in index funds. Lowers stress levels and you don't need to deal with brokers or agents.

Volatility - The stock market history says it is the lowest risk place to have money for long term investment (10 years or more). If you need the money in the near term, risk goes up as the duration shortens. The stock market is not the place to have money you will need in the next few years.
 
   / Learning about the stock market #27  
Fees will take a lot of your growth. Low cost funds like vanguard or fidelity will help with this. For funds look a total stock market fund, international, and bond in the % that works for you.
I can say I had a fund manager who was taking fees on top of the fund fees. Which really cut into our growth. We moved out money out of there and went with fidelity.
Individual stocks can make you rich but it can also crash you fast. That is the reasoning behind the funds.
Advisers some will charge a % of the account, cuts into your growth.
Like they say on boggleheads investing is boring, get three funds, put money into it for a long time don't mess with it. its not timing the market its time in the market.
 
   / Learning about the stock market #28  
Fees will take a lot of your growth. Low cost funds like vanguard or fidelity will help with this. For funds look a total stock market fund, international, and bond in the % that works for you.
I can say I had a fund manager who was taking fees on top of the fund fees. Which really cut into our growth. We moved out money out of there and went with fidelity.
Individual stocks can make you rich but it can also crash you fast. That is the reasoning behind the funds.
Advisers some will charge a % of the account, cuts into your growth.
Like they say on boggleheads investing is boring, get three funds, put money into it for a long time don't mess with it. its not timing the market its time in the market.

Truth.

RSKY
 
   / Learning about the stock market #29  
Rainy day here...
How many remember the early days of the World Wide Web?...before the graphic interface of http there were lots of Usenet groups and dial up bulletin boards dedicated to the stock market and tracking stocks etc...
Back then rules were fairly strict about posting Off Topic (O/T) messages...

Here is a trivia question about the bygone era...

What three letters of the alphabet were accepted at the beginning of off topic or semi-related stock market missives? and what is the significance? (hint "O", or "T" are not them)...
 
   / Learning about the stock market #30  
More on the efficient market hypothesis from Ben Carson via Mark Perry -- 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable. The "experts" in this case are the managers of university endowments.

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