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hilltop Haven Farm said:
Tym said they bought out Branson.
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They bought Branson's parent company Kukje. Kukje is still making and selling Branson tractors with Cummins engines. Branson's parent company makes A series engines for Cummins under a 2002 partnership agreement. Tym may have bought Kukje for the the engines but they're probably not in Tyms yet. Since Branson's a bigger brand than Tym in the US it seems unlikely that Tym would kill the Branson line.
 
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hilltop Haven Farm said:
So I drove a tym 394 and a kioti 4010.
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TYM394

ENGINE

Engine Manufacturer / Model Yanmar 3TNV88-CR
Type Natural Aspiration
HP-Gross 37.4 (27.5)
PTO HP (kw) 28.8 (21.5)
Rated Engine Speed 3000
Number of Cylinders 3
Displacement-cu.in (cc) 100.2 (1642)
Air Cleaner Dual Dry
Alternator 12V55A
Fuel System Type CRDI
POWERTRAIN

Transmission Type HST
Number of Speeds Infinite / 3 Range
Max Traveling Speed, mph (km/h) 16.8 (27)
Brakes Wet Disc
Steering Hydrostatic
Clutch N/A
HYDRAULIC SYSTEM

Pump Type Dual Gear Pump
Implement Pump Cap, gpm (L/min) 6.4 (24.4)
Steering Pump Cap, gpm (L/min) 4.6 (17.6)
Max Total Flow, gpm (L/min) 11 (42.0)
Category, 3 Point Hitch 1
Hitch Lift Capacity, lb (kg) 2646 (1200)
at 24 inches behind link ends, lb (kg) 1764 (800)
Lift Control Type Position
Joy Stick Valve Standard
No. of standard remote valves 1
PTO

PTO Type Independent
PTO Control Electric / Hydro
PTO Mid (rpm) - Optional 2000
PTO Rear (rpm) 540
PTO Shaft Diameter in. (mm) 1 3/8 (35)
CAPACITIES

Fuel Tank, U.S. gal. (L) 9.0 (34)
Cooling System, U.S. qt (L) 7.4 (7)
Crankcase (with filter) U.S. qt (L) 6.0 (5.7)
Trans & Hydr System, U.S. gal (L) 9.25 (35)
Front Axle qt (L) 8.7 (8.2)
DIMENSIONS

Overall Length, in (mm) with 3P 126 (3200)
Overall Width, in (mm) 53.5 (1360)
Wheelbase, in (mm) 66.1 (1680)
Height to Top of ROPS, in (mm) 94.4 (2400)
Min Ground Clearance, in (mm) 12.8 (325)
Min Turn Radius, in (mm) with Brakes 94.4 (2400)
Min Turn Radius, in (mm) w/o Brakes 116 (2950)
Total Weight, lb (kg) 3020 (1370)






KIOTI 4010

Production:
Manufacturer: Daedong

Engine Detail:
Daedong 3F183
diesel
3-cylinder
liquid-cooled inline
111.4 ci [1.8 L]
Bore/Stroke: 3.43x4.03 inches [87 x 102 mm]
Power (gross): 39.6 hp [29.5 kW]
Fuel system: common rail direct injection
Rated RPM: 2600
Torque: 87 lb-ft [118.0 Nm]
Torque RPM: 1800

Capacity:
Fuel: 9 gal [34.1 L]

3-Point Hitch:
Rear Type: I
Control: position control
Rear lift (at 24"/610mm): 1361 lbs [617 kg]

Power Take-off (PTO):
Rear PTO: live
Clutch: dry disc
Rear RPM: 540 (1.375)
Mid PTO: optional
Mid RPM: 2000

Dimensions & Tires:
Wheelbase: 65.7 inches [166 cm]
Weight: 2679 to 3307 pounds
Front tire: 7-16
Rear tire: 11.2-24
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Kioti CK4010 attachments:
front-end loader
backhoe


Kioti CK4010 Power:
Engine (gross): 39.6 hp [29.5 kW]
Gear PTO (claimed): 34.9 hp [26.0 kW]
Hydro PTO (claimed): 33.3 hp [24.8 kW]

Mechanical:
Chassis: 4x4 MFWD 4WD
Differential lock: mechanical rear
Steering: power
Brakes: wet disc
Cab: Two-post folding ROPS. Cab with air-conditioning optional (CK4010SE HC model).

Hydraulics:
Type: open center
Valves: 2*
Total flow: 11.7 gpm [44.3 lpm]


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Last update: February 18, 2017
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   / Let's try this again..... #23  
Not pointing at the OP. Just a general perception of TBN members thinking. Hypothetical situation......

A used "xyz" brand tractor like I want is $16,000. I can buy a new one just like it for $20,000. Why would I spend $16,000 on a used one when I can get a new one for $20,000???

Answer: Because you are spending 80% of the money required to buy new!!!! Saving 20% for a tractor with low hours!!! No brainer to me.

I think it generally comes down to financing availability. Manufacturers know that. Thus they offer "0% financing". They make their money on the inflated new price. Pretty good game they are playing!!!! :)

Back on track. Be aware of engine HP versus PTO HP. Some tractors have a huge spread between the two. Especially HST tractors. My Brother had an L3240 Kubota HST. All it did was aggravate me when trying to run a 6' cutter on hilly terrain.

I'm with Gary on the R1s. I use the snot out of my tractors in timber terrain. I ruined a front R1 on my Kubota recently. I can't say if I'd had R4s that they would have survived any better. Traction is no comparison. My previous tractor had R4s. Worthless in timber when wet/muddy.

Good luck with your choices and keep us posted!!!
 
   / Let's try this again..... #24  
50+ HP and a utility instead of a compact. Longer wheel base and wider width are nice when moving heavy loads. I used the farmowners 45hp New Holland compact at a sale I did in April and it was so much shorter and skinnier. It seemed way more inclined to tip with a load on. Just my 2 cents worth
 
   / Let's try this again..... #25  
Yep, if you can step up to a utility, no comparison!!
 
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Appreciate all the feedback. Yes I agree if I can find a low hour used utility 45+ that would be ideal. Patience is not a quality I possess so let's see what happens. Any leads on a tractor please post.
 
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And any one of those would be a good choice!!!

Decisions, decisions...... ;)
 
   / Let's try this again..... #29  
I recently purchased a NX4510 HST and have had no issues with it. No steep and hilly terrain here. I did get the tires filled because it was thrown into the package deal. Depending on your location I would call or email Larry Stovesand Equipment in TN. Communication was some of the best I have ever received.
 
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Some good tractors there at tractor house, but a few with high hours and I do need a hydro drive since others will be using it. If i go used it has to be worth it. Ck3510, 4010, or tym 394 hat with fell and filled tires all under 20k
 
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