Curious what % off of list pricing on tractor with loader deals (to try to simplify, no backhoe, no "package deals" with other goodies)... First dealer bid was at 10% off plus the Kubota incentives locally... If there's 20% margin, plus 5% volume bonus plus 5% other SPIFs plus maybe other holdback amounts, seems there'd be more room for discounts... But with the supply/demand snafus of 2020, they aren't going to be as generous as prior years 'bout this time though? Old threads quoted things like $1500 off with 2 attachments plus dealer %age discounts in 2019 for example... Thanks!