Thanks for all the comments. It was new to me back in 08, I just got around to posting pics. Those logs I was moving were no problem, they had been drying out a couple years and I only had to move them 30 yards, then onto my neighbors trailer. I definatley needed the counterweight when moving the propane tank, and it was almost empty- just a lot of weight way out front! I'm building a 3 pt counter weight, as I have found a couple of times it would be nice to have the weight but not the bulk of the backhoe back there. I would like to get some pin on style forks for it- Anyone know if Kioti sells these or who may? Thanks DREW