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Ouch. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif The last few days I've wiped out everything on my hard drives, and bought all new software, and installed it all, updated everything, etc. However, in the past I simply downloaded and installed the software from java.com and it worked, but not this time. I've tried just about everything I could think of the last couple of days and still have not succeeded in finding any way to enable java on this contraption. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif