*ughs* been trying to look at all the various "harvesting" and threshing, etc... of getting the wanted part of crop removed from plant. and dealing with "hills" and keeping sieves to paddles, to even flow across everything. and more so "level flow" and then the multi options of changing things in out for different crops within the thresher area. dealing with downed crop from wind to animals nocking crop down. dealing with different types of crops from plants, to root base crops.
i am most likely going to need to change the direction. in how crops feed through say a combine for field corn, wheat, etc... and see about mutli "feeder boxes / housings" i am afraid if i go with more of a straight up vertical lift feeder housing, to bring crop up to the top, and let crop work its way down. that there would be greater lose / damage in the feeder housing, if using paddled conveyer belt.
if i used auger base style of transportation of wheat, corn ears, potatoes, hhmmmssss
i want to raise MPH (mile per hour) in the field for harvesting. so bottle necks are going to be from feeder housing and then threshing. and then needing to keep things level
i can use vibrational shifting back and forth sieves. go with wedge wire sieves, and go for more of a angled attack / flow. could go with cyclone / whirl pool effect using air instead of water. i guess like them cyclone vacuums out there on the market were crud is trapped.
hhhmmssss..... so what are the sections that i want universal connections...
ok do i want the "threshing" for say corn / wheat / beans. to be placed on the SSTT. do i just want to take say a fork lift, pick up the threshing unit, and set it on top off the SSTT main frame. or do i want to say treat the thresher, like a set of discs or plows, chisels. were linkage arms just fold the threshing portion up on top of the SSTT. as if folding up discs, plows, etc... for transportation mode. then
eewwww more universal connection points.. more so quick attach doings.... i suppose if i stay with linkage arms for like plow/chisel/disc/planters/ seeders. all the electrical, hydrualic, air, and physical connections would be there.
but the issue comes in, needing to deal with the combine header, feeder hosing. and needing linkages for them. actually, that might work... using a second set of motors. ya.... that could work out hhmmsss... keeping ground contact at the header and flexabilty.... well....rely back on the SSTT main frame.
hhhmmsss what about out feeds, conveyer belts to augers... for both wanted portion of crop, and left overs, leaves, stems, roots that are not wanted.
if i say take two or 3 current age combines, removed, cab, removed the hopper (temporary holder of grain), wheels, engine, fuel tank. all i have left is header, feeder house, thresher, auger, and left over control.
---ONE 60 foot long,
---or split up in to TWO 30 foot long sections,
---or THREE 20 foot sections,
---or FOUR 15 foot sections.
i have 8 feet width, by 10 feet high approx for each section.
1 single long thresher.... bring crop from multi feeder housing boxes... would most likely mean a conveyer belt going entire length of the SSTT or near to that. and then on given end, crop getting feed into a thresher, that could extend clear across the SSTT main frame of 60 feet. the issue is bottle necking. limited by width of the thresher of 8 feet. minus a few inches here and there.
if i went with 2 threshers. well hmmsss.... there is going to be a min of 3 sections of the main frame for the SSTT. each being 20 foot long. maybe 4 sections each 15 long (not sure yet) i suppose it would make sense to go with more of a multi thresher setup. more complex due to all the extra threshers, but.... being able to reach higher MPH...in field, each thresher would end up seeing more crop. the only issue then would be needing augers or conveyer belts. to deal with the final output... of both wanted part of crop, and then the left over leaves, stems, roots that are not wanted....
i suppose the threshers initially could be made smaller, they would not be able to handle higher MPH in the field. but could be cheaper, and then upgrading to threshers that were larger and better geared for high mph in the field. smaller size threshers would more likely be easier to adjust level, both front and back, and left to right. and more likely be able to follow the contours (hills/slopes) better. multi threshers running at different speeds, to handle different areas of the field, that have grown a more denser crop, vs areas beside that will more likely have a less denser plant growth / crop.
i guess the only major portion that would need leveling would be screens themselves. hhmmsss
upside down....cone shaped cyclones....with cones inside of cones, of different mesh sizes. and beaters that run between the cone shaped screens.
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side tracking....
tempted to run 3000 to 5000 PSI, from main hyd motor. and then use regulators. in different places. to produce a more guaranteed hyd pressure in the 1000 to 3000PSI range that go to various cylinders and hyd motors, and actuators.... perhaps allowing for a more balanced flow throughout the entire setup.
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if i went with approach of silage / corn. and cut the corn stalk right off at ground, and brought the entire corn stalk, leaves, and ear of corn up into the machine, and then separated, the stalk, leaves, from ear of corn, then went a tad further separating kernels of corn from cob perhaps... and then outputted, stalk/leaves to one wagon, kernels to another wagon, and cob to another wagon....
say.. 2 outside units proccessed entire stalk, leaves, and ear of corn. and the ear of corn went to center unit that removed kernals from cob.... the 2 outside units would cut the stalks/leaves down to desired wanted length. perhaps center unit cut the cob up in smaller chunks to allow more cobs to fit in same size wagon.
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what about soy beans and wheat.... smaller grains, might be better off, with 3 thresher units. to allow for higher MPH in field.
if i went with potatoes.... i would need to lift potatoes up and out of the ground, and shake the dirt off. and then get them on a conveyer belt on SSTT or i guess multi conveyer belts. to control which direction potatoes went, and to which wagon they went. perhaps. even install sizing and shape sorting directly on the SSTT. as first process control. to better utilize how many potatoes fit in different size wagons...
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arghs... bed formers / shapers to make hills.... current age, ya got this good old size tractor out in front, a tiller, and then some metal. that squeezes and shapes the dirt to form a wanted hill shape. both width and height, and controlling the angle of the sides, and curve / flatness of the top of the hill being made....
i am not really seeing any sort of "proactive" use of any sort of "buffers", or pads. that might be found in clay and arts and crafts, to wood working to other. were sanding and buffing are done to sides and top. if i am running out of traction (wheels are slipping in the mud), then you have HP (horse power), left to do something with. how about reducing amount of traction needed, but how beds are formed.
i am not seeing a more multi row, bed shaping and plastic lay down or flipping plastic from black side to white side and vice vs.
i am still not finding any good "transplanting" setups that are setup for machine planting vs physically hand planting...
i am still seeing a whole bunch of "customized" harvesters for a specific crop type, but pretty much every single harvester has same build and how it works....
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think i am more towards multi thresher setup. to cover a wider range of overall crops, with limited amount of change to basic components for different crops.
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how do i store the header, example, soybean combine header, corn combine header, etc.... been thinking about using a set of "tracks" that raise the entire header straight up. and then tracks do a 90 on top, and bring the header back over top of the SSTT. or do i try and use linkages, hydraulic cylinders, an rotatory actuators, to grab a hold of a header, raise it off the ground some, hyd cylinders contract bringing it closer to the SSTT main frame, and then do a controlled rotation and lift. so header can be stored on top of the SSTT during transporting.
the header is going to need to "flex" with the SSTT main frame, say 10 to 15 degrees.
*shakes head* need to get out of current age setups... if i fix the header to the feeder box, and allowed the feeder box to fold up into the side of the SSTT and route the threshers around the feeder box. that would pop that header right on top. i suppose i could split the feeder box up into 2 sections. well hhmmmsss how would that work...
perhaps inserting the connection point of feeder box more towards center of the SSTT, and split the feeder box / housing into 2 pieces. or rather make that 2 conveyer belts. well i guess there would be a top and bottom conveyer belt. for a set of 2 conveyer belts.
so were would i insert a rotational axis. to allow the header to flex and follow the ground, while the feeder box / housing is more fixed position... the wheels of the SSTT have 1 axis of freedom. combined overall wheels 2 axis of freedom for leveling.... so perhaps going with 2 rotational places on the feeder box....
header -> rotational axis -> feeder box (2 conveyer belts, one bottom one top, to sandwich the crop), then another rotational axis, then another feeder box (same as first), then connection to the SSTT, or rather make that some place near the top of the thresher...
taking above and building...
header -> rotational axis -> feeder box -> rotational axis -> ((physical seperate split)), that allows folding -> feeder box -> connection near top of thresher...
bah gets more complex than that....
the rotational axis, does not really need to be "powered" via electrical motor, hyd motor, hyd cylinder, rotatory vane actuator, all it needs is a limited degrees of rotation. well take that back....
i need to "mis align" the 2 feeder boxes. or rather make that allow for the conveyer belt sets to become mis-aligned. so basiclly, all i would need to do is change the angle that rollers/sprockets that the conveyer belts run on. actually perhaps i do not need to run 4 sets of conveyer belts / 2 feeder boxes. but keep with a single feeder box. but mid way allow the conveyer belt to "twist" on purpose, were 2 rollers/sprockets are right next to each other. i guess that would be simple enough. some springs or perhaps even smallish hydraulic cylinders. 2 sets of 2. 1 set per side. well actually it would be a single full set of 4, and running the hyd cylinders in a series,..... i guess parallel could work better, and provide extra torque / force.
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alright. so how do i get the feeder box / house to fold....
i am not to eager to place larger diameter sprockets, just to be able to insert some rotatory vane actuator. anything that allows folding needs to be done on the outside errr make that along the sides of the conveyer belts.
so how do i place hyd cylinders or like... i guess, extend frame out that holds the rollers/sprockets. and come off of it with some ear tabs, if i use the "mis-aligned" conveyer belt area for rotational axis, as the hinge point. there would already be rollers to keep the conveyer belt aligned. and could double purpose those rollers to keep conveyer belts from loosing up to much and coming off of the sprockets. but....how do i allow for the lower conveyer belt, to stretch. or would there be... i would need to add most likely a hydraulic cylinder as the conveyer belt tensioners. vs just using a spring, threaded rod, and an adjustable nut.
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so how do i handle the rotational axis between the header and conveyer belt. along with tilt, the header for lack of better statement, would be a "heavy duty bucket" on a FEL (front end loader).
getting brain fried... posting this brain storm session before i loose it.