Newbie buying 4115-ish tractor... seeking advice!

[Anonymous Poster]

I will add my voice to the others here. The dealer can make or break your enjoyment of your CUT.
I went with green. The dealer had a fair price and got my vote for follow through.
I wanted the possibility of a backhoe, so I started looking at the 4210... ended up going with the JD 4310.. the size was right, the price was right and the dealer was right.
I visited 4 dealers (all within 30 miles) 2 green, 2 orange. I found one great orange dealer and one great green dealer. One orange was bad enough that I would have gone out of state and still had better service.
The eHydro is JD's name for the hydrostatic transmission--I love mine. Makes for a really useful tool, and it is also easier to teach other family members to use.
I would certainly figure out if you want to pay your money to the dealer you have had the problems with.
Good luck in your search. Ask questions.
I am thrilled with my purchase.

Shari
JD 4310 MFWD eHydro, 430 FEL, 47 Backhoe, LX5 rotary cutter, 550 Tiller, iMatch, iMatch ballast box

 

[Nathan_OR]

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Great, thanks. I am hearing a lot of folks recommend the R4s... logically they make sense. I drove around on them and the ride was smooth enough for me, so I don't see any reason not to go with them.
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Curious… what are the techniques you plan on using to “digging out stumps/rocks” with this class of tractor and no backhoe…?
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Well, I won't get huge boulders out, but I've found I can usually push a stump over to break the tap root, and then pop it out by hooking it with the edge of the loader. The rocks I'm digging will probably require a little shovel-prep work, but I can't lift them (many are in excess of 500 pounds) so once I get them loose I figure I can roll them up out of the hole with the loader and then scoop them up /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif I might not have any luck with this but it's my plan!

Thanks for the feedback!

 

[Nathan_OR]

First, thank you all for the great advice!

Before I forget to mention: I did look at Kubota and New Holland. As far as I could tell they all would do fine. I just don't want any surprises as far as features, and I figured the "neighbors drive Deere" reason was as good as any I could come up with. The locals almost all drive Deere too, so I figure I can resell easily... I know that's not a huge factor but like I said, I'm not really coming up with any better reasons /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif I've also borrowed a friend's 4310 and it could clearly do all the work I wanted, and in fact was a tad big for my property. But I liked operating it.

I am leaning toward the 4210, because it is the first model in the line that comes equipped with eHydro. I also like that it can drive a 5' rotary cutter for pasture mowing, and it's a bit heavier for the landscaping/light-excavating I plan on.

I'm thinking I'll configure it with 4WD, eHydro, and R4 tires, and a mid-PTO in case I decide to make a bigger lawn and mow it with a mid-mount mower. If I can talk the dealer down to $16k with a FEL included, have I done okay? MSRP WITHOUT the loader is $18,400... I can't find what MSRP is on the 420 loader. There is also $1000 manufacturer's rebate.

Here's a cut and paste of how I configured it, in case there's something you guys think I included I don't need, or something I'll wish I did include later!

BASE MACHINE $15,169.00
129DLV 4210 Tractor

FRONT AXLE In Base Price
1005 4 Wheel Drive

ROPS (ROLL-OVER PROTECTIVE STRUCTURES) In Base Price
1505 Tall Folding ROPS

TRANSMISSION $2,400.00
2025 eHydro

MID PTO $390.00
2505 Mid PTO

Mid PTO is only Available as a Field Installed Option (LVB25291) on Tractors Equipped with 2WD Axle and Syncshift Transmission.

WHEELS WITH TIRES (TWO) $210.00
4510 23X8.5-12
14-17.5

SELECTIVE CONTROL VALVES In Base Price
7000 Less Dual Selective Control Valve

ROCKSHAFT AND DRAFT LINKS In Base Price
7500 Rockshaft With Flat Bar Draft Links

Configured Features - Optional

9001 iMatch Quick Hitch System

Includes one set of Bushings (LVU12858). $220.00

TOTAL: $18,389

 

[TresCrows]

Get what you like. I am not impressed with what you said about that dealer. A pushmower is one thing but you are about to make a substantial investment.

""I'm thinking I ought to go Deere because all five of my neighbors drive John Deere, so I'm hoping that they can help me out with mechanical problems. I can do light engine work, but hydraulics and drivetrain I have no experience with, so I'm thinking I might need to rely on them for help. Does this seem like a good reason to go John Deere?""

No, it does not. I would not get what my neighbors get, I like to set the pace. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif In any case I doubt your new tractors should require engine work for years regardless of it being a JD. The JD has the excellent engine built by Yanamar for them. It is a solid piece.
Good luck. J

 

[Chief]

Re: Newbie buying 4115-ish tractor... seeking advi

Your dealer needs to work more on that price. This is what I came up with which is pretty much near rock bottom.

4210 4WD
ehydro
R-4's
Mid PTO
Dual mid & single rear scv's (you need these with a mmm)
I-match

$15,775.00

You will probably have to work up from this price but I would not got too far above that. Check around with several JD dealers and compare.

Here is a dealer who sells on line, this should give you a ball park figure. This is not a bad price.

Link to 4210 Online Pricing

 

[Nathan_OR]

Re: Newbie buying 4115-ish tractor... seeking advi

I thought I posted this already, but I must have closed the browser without submitting it /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Here's the price I'm getting ready to accept:

4210
- 4WD
- eHydro
- R4 tires

JD LX5 rotary cutter

JD 420 Loader w/ Ballast Box

Land Pride Post Hole Digger with 9" auger

Total package price: $19,000 even

I did get a lower quote ($18,300) but I didn't like that dealer at all.

What do you guys think? Is this a fair price?

Thanks,
Nathan