450EXC, My wife opened another subject ( thank you all ), because she didn't realize she could have replied in the same thread. It was Islandtractor who suggested to give me a backhoe, by the way thanks for the support but she said NO! /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif Buy the way I find those keys very flimsy, I bent it a few times coming off the tractor and then finally broke yesterday. Anyways thanks for all your support with this one as I was out on the road...cag