Are you adding the time it takes to hook up the trailer? I have a bumper pull. I have to dig out the stinger, stick it in the Reese hitch, back up, get out and check my alignment, get back in and back up some more, get out and make sure I'm not going to hammer another dent into my bumper, get back in and back under the ball, oops, I missed by an inch! Get back in and fix it, get out and hook it up, drag the trailer out in the street, wait for the traffic to get past and stop their rubbernecking, line the trailer up on the side of the road, go get the tractor, load it and tie it down. Let's check the lights this time, oops, lights out! Durn, shouldn't have looked. Let's shoot some more time in the hiney cleaning connections. Hmm, those two tires didn't look low without 8,000 pounds on the trailer, lets swing over to the tire shop and get a patch and some air. Now, you want to refresh my memory, how long does it take you to load and tie down your tractor? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif