V12 650+hp diesel race car for Sebring & Lemans

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Audi has won the 12 hours of Sebring the last six years and won at 24 hours of Lemans. This year they debut a V12 diesel monster. Check it out. Power band is 3000-5000, extremely low for a racing engine, considering the previous engines never had a failure in their 70some races, this one should be a tank. They had to build new gearboxes for their dyno's to handle the torque. I’ll be at Sebring to see it, should be interesting with its better fuel mileage.


http://www.audi.com/audi/com/en1/experience/motorsport/r10.html

http://dieselpowermag.com/news/0512dp_r10/

I’ll be there.....
http://www.americanlemans.com/News/Article.aspx?NewsID=1756
 
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Wonder what kind of milage they get and how that compares to the others?
 
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Don’t know exact numbers, imagine they’re out there somewhere, reading in a Sebring flyer they mention “extremely quiet and economical.” Hard to imagine a race car being quieter than their previous R8’s, you heard a concussion of air waves cutting through more than the engine, absolutely incredible cars. They also said the driver has to shift far less often with the diesel because of the favorable torque curve. Sebring is extremely bumpy and the R8’s used to float over them like they weren’t there compared to other cars. I remember hearing a few years ago it would take over 150 million in research and development to compete with the Audi Prototypes. That number is no doubt much higher now.

A Google search for Audi R10 brings lots of info.
 
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Scope out this video if you have a high speed connection, it is on the Nurenburgin track at speeds over 220 mph, the audio of the turbo is totally awesome as is the scenery going by extremely quickly.

Wait until about 1/2 way through the video after he's gotten his tires warmed up, what a RIDE!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

http://www.bmwtransact.com/microsite/Nurburgring/index.html


One thing is for absolute certain --->>>] THIS AIN'T NASCAR!!! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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ACHT MEIN GOTT, that is one very Mean Machine /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
 
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Thats amazing...diesel technology and performance has jumped dramatically recently.
 
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Diesel technology certainly has progressed rapidly in the last ten years (mostly in Europe), but it is good to see diesels on professional racing circuits winning against the gassers!
 
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Was curious about fuel consumption so did a bit more reading. Looks like a typo in the story, assume they mean R10 could do one “more” lap with a tank full at Le Mans. That’s significant when you consider Le Mans is nearly an 8.5 mile track. To anyone who is into race tech stuff, the below links are some of the best I’ve seen.


“The Audi engineers have calculated that the R10 could do one ore lap with a tank full at the Le Mans Sarthe track. This would mean that the R10 is about 5 % more efficient fuel burner than the R8 FSI over the track. The Sarthe is about 80 % WOT (Wide Open Throttle) so the difference is not that enormous. At tracks with a higher part load percentage (Sebring, Road Atlanta) the difference is going to be bigger.”
http://www.mulsannescorner.com/juhaAudiR10.html




“HT: How much of an improvement do you feel the diesel will make on fuel economy vs. the R8 powerplant?
Well Audi claimed a possible 1-2 lap advantage at Le Mans over the R8, a track where a high percentage of the lap is at 100-percent throttle. So that will translate into a larger advantage at other circuits.”
http://www.highlandstoday.com/MGBRVI3MNIE.html


“This choice emphasizes the TDI (and concurrence) commercial success on Europe's roads. It isn't the first diesel raced at Le Mans, however. In 2004 a Lola equipped with a Caterpillar re badged VW V10 TDI ran for a few hours before breaking its gearbox. The Volkswagen Group itself uses a specially equipped diesel race Touareg at the Paris Dakar Rally and BMW had successfully raced diesel touring cars at the Nürburgring. The R10 will compete with Peugeot's new diesel effort in 2007.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_R10


“The R10's 5.5-liter V12 twin-turbo intercooled high-pressure direct-injection diesel breaks plenty of new ground for a diesel. It may have the highest specific power output of any diesel ever, with over 650 horsepower and 800 lb-ft of torque. It's high-revving for a diesel, with power from 3,000 to 5,000 rpm, and it's block and cylinder heads are made from aluminum for light weight. Most diesels are made from cast iron for strength, and are heavy. And 3,000 rpm is a high engine speed for an automotive-size diesel, which is small as such things go. Modern locomotive diesels rev to perhaps 1200 rpm, usually less, with upwards of 180 liters capacity for 4,000 horsepower. The largest marine diesel I know of dwarfs that - it's a Wartsila-Sulzer turbodiesel built to power container ships. With a 38-inch bore and 98-inch stroke, the 14-cylinder version displaces 25,480 liters and produces over 180,000 horsepower at 102 rpm, and over 5.6 million lb-ft of torque at that speed. It weighs 2300 tons and is nearly 90 feet long.”
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2005/12/15/177239.html
 
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I’m on dial-up and let it load for nearly 2 hours but well worth it! That is the most incredible ride anyone could ever take, audio is unreal, sounds like a jet engine. Nurburgring is absolutely breathtaking. Makes you realize just how good some of these drivers really are. Turbo whine and straight cut gear noise is awesome. In one of those stories I linked to, the drivers said they cannot hear the engine in the R10 over the wind noise. That’s got to be very hard to get used to because engine noise is kind of a guide to the senses. I’ve seen the R8 run Sebring many times and when it’s coming at you all you hear is wind. Only time you hear engine is on acceleration out of a corner.
 
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The largest most detrimental problem for high speed diesel racing is the lack of any transmission able to put that much power down to the tarmac.

There simply has never been a transmission designed to take such wicked abuse from the abrupt application of power from one of these modern superpower twin-turbodiesel engines.
 
 
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