EddieWalker
Epic Contributor
As some of you know, my lake is dug and I'm just waiting on the rains to fill it up. This could happen in one terrible storm, or it might take years to happen. Right next to my lake is my property line, which happens to be a creek that flows year round. There is a very deep hole in this creek that would just be perfect for pumping water from and into my lake.
Call me impatient, but I want to start pumping water. I've never bought a pump before and the more I looke, the more confused I'm getting. There is no electricity to that area, nor even close, so that's not an option. I could run my generator and pump with an electric pump that way, but I'd rather not if I don't have to. I've looked at and seriously considered ram pumps, but even if I build it big, it will only give me a small amount of water compared to what I need.
One acre foot of water equals 325,851 gallons. I have 4.3 acres of surface water when full, so that's 1,401,159 gallons for every foot of depth. My average depth is around 8 feet, so that means I need 11,209,274 gallons of water!!!!
I've thought about a PTO driven pump on my CUT, but that's just too long to have it running. So that's out.
The best solution I've come up with besides doing nothing and letting Mother Nature do this, is a gas powered pump. Now the reason for my post.
Harbor Freight has a 5.5 hp Central Machinery 2 inch pump on sale for $179.99 plus shipping. It's a no name engine and you have to prime it to get it to pump. It's rated at 8,700 gallons per hour, or 208,800 gallons every 24 hours of non stop use. This pump is too small for my needs as it would take two months to fill my lake of non stop use.
Harbor Freight Tools - Quality Tools at the Lowest Prices
They have a larger 6.5 hp pump that will do 15,000 gallons an hour that is more in the range of what I think I need. It's the same unknown engine make. They also have the small 2 inch pump with a Robin engine. I think Robin makes a decent engine, but I've never had one, so it's just rumor to me. Price for that one is $300 wth another one they call a fire fighter pump that is $469.
If I'm going to spend over $300, than Northen Tool has a 6hp with a Robin EX17 commercial grade engine that self primes for $429.99 plus $37.15 for shipping. They also have all the hoses and attachments I'll need, but that's kind of seperate to this question. This is a 3 inch pump that is rated for 15,376 gallons per hour, or 369,024 gallons over 24 hours. Comparing the two pumps is like night and day. This one has a much better pump too.
NorthStar Water Pump — 15,376 GPH, 6 HP, 3in., Model# SE 80 EX |Gas Powered Water Pumps | Northern Tool + Equipment
Than I went and looked on Ebay and really got confused. This first listing has a 6.5 hp pump that has a Honda "like" engine. What does that mean? They say it uses Honda parts and that they are completely interchangable. The seller has 1,665 sales with 99.9 positive feedback. The pump sounds good and it's rated for over 380,000 gallons in 24 hours. He has a buy it now price of $239 with free shipping. Hmm, sounds too good to be true, but when I look at his feedback, that's all he does is sell these pumps. Lots and lots of them.
eBay: GX-200 WATER TRASH PUMP WP-30X , 3'' 61/2 HP WARRANTY (item 180037775770 end time Oct-21-06 08:53:20 PDT)
Then I looked around on Ebay some more and found what looks like the same identical pump from another seller, but his buy it now price is $79.99 and he wants $110 for shipping, or a total of $189.99. I can't tell if there is any difference between the two pumps from the discriptions or the pictures. This guy has 76,233 feedbacks with 98.2 percent positive feedback. With that level of sales, I expect some loons and problems, which I saw when reading his feedback. Mostly people with one or two feedbacks themselves. This seller seems to sell all sorts of stuff, kind of like Harbor Freight, but on Ebay. I didn't look at all his positive feedback to see what he'd sold, but in the several dozen that I did look at, not one was for a pump.
eBay: NEW 6.5 HP 3" TRASH WATER PUMP EPA APPROVED HEAVY DUTY (item 160040695962 end time Oct-21-06 09:21:10 PDT)
Is this too good to be true? Am I wasting my money on cheap, no name pumps? Has anybody ever used or have a 3 inch pump like what I'm looking at?
Thank you,
Eddie
Call me impatient, but I want to start pumping water. I've never bought a pump before and the more I looke, the more confused I'm getting. There is no electricity to that area, nor even close, so that's not an option. I could run my generator and pump with an electric pump that way, but I'd rather not if I don't have to. I've looked at and seriously considered ram pumps, but even if I build it big, it will only give me a small amount of water compared to what I need.
One acre foot of water equals 325,851 gallons. I have 4.3 acres of surface water when full, so that's 1,401,159 gallons for every foot of depth. My average depth is around 8 feet, so that means I need 11,209,274 gallons of water!!!!
I've thought about a PTO driven pump on my CUT, but that's just too long to have it running. So that's out.
The best solution I've come up with besides doing nothing and letting Mother Nature do this, is a gas powered pump. Now the reason for my post.
Harbor Freight has a 5.5 hp Central Machinery 2 inch pump on sale for $179.99 plus shipping. It's a no name engine and you have to prime it to get it to pump. It's rated at 8,700 gallons per hour, or 208,800 gallons every 24 hours of non stop use. This pump is too small for my needs as it would take two months to fill my lake of non stop use.
Harbor Freight Tools - Quality Tools at the Lowest Prices
They have a larger 6.5 hp pump that will do 15,000 gallons an hour that is more in the range of what I think I need. It's the same unknown engine make. They also have the small 2 inch pump with a Robin engine. I think Robin makes a decent engine, but I've never had one, so it's just rumor to me. Price for that one is $300 wth another one they call a fire fighter pump that is $469.
If I'm going to spend over $300, than Northen Tool has a 6hp with a Robin EX17 commercial grade engine that self primes for $429.99 plus $37.15 for shipping. They also have all the hoses and attachments I'll need, but that's kind of seperate to this question. This is a 3 inch pump that is rated for 15,376 gallons per hour, or 369,024 gallons over 24 hours. Comparing the two pumps is like night and day. This one has a much better pump too.
NorthStar Water Pump — 15,376 GPH, 6 HP, 3in., Model# SE 80 EX |Gas Powered Water Pumps | Northern Tool + Equipment
Than I went and looked on Ebay and really got confused. This first listing has a 6.5 hp pump that has a Honda "like" engine. What does that mean? They say it uses Honda parts and that they are completely interchangable. The seller has 1,665 sales with 99.9 positive feedback. The pump sounds good and it's rated for over 380,000 gallons in 24 hours. He has a buy it now price of $239 with free shipping. Hmm, sounds too good to be true, but when I look at his feedback, that's all he does is sell these pumps. Lots and lots of them.
eBay: GX-200 WATER TRASH PUMP WP-30X , 3'' 61/2 HP WARRANTY (item 180037775770 end time Oct-21-06 08:53:20 PDT)
Then I looked around on Ebay some more and found what looks like the same identical pump from another seller, but his buy it now price is $79.99 and he wants $110 for shipping, or a total of $189.99. I can't tell if there is any difference between the two pumps from the discriptions or the pictures. This guy has 76,233 feedbacks with 98.2 percent positive feedback. With that level of sales, I expect some loons and problems, which I saw when reading his feedback. Mostly people with one or two feedbacks themselves. This seller seems to sell all sorts of stuff, kind of like Harbor Freight, but on Ebay. I didn't look at all his positive feedback to see what he'd sold, but in the several dozen that I did look at, not one was for a pump.
eBay: NEW 6.5 HP 3" TRASH WATER PUMP EPA APPROVED HEAVY DUTY (item 160040695962 end time Oct-21-06 09:21:10 PDT)
Is this too good to be true? Am I wasting my money on cheap, no name pumps? Has anybody ever used or have a 3 inch pump like what I'm looking at?
Thank you,
Eddie