Wiley's got the blues!

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Everhard

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Location
Mulmur, Ontario
Tractor
Kioti Ck2510
New Holland Backhoe blues that is! :)

I found a good deal on a NH 915 backhoe - it came with the subframe for a NH tractor. After checking it out I figured it was close enough in spec to what the Kioti CK20s normally runs for a backhoe so I went for it. Then the obvious challenge of making it attach to "Wiley".
I debated a few different options including just buying a Kioti subframe kit and then modifying that to attach to the hoe but given I'd have to modify it and the astronomical price for the kit I figured I might as well work with the frame that's on it and build brackets to go on the tractor to hook it up.

I got some great pic's from KiotiGuy showing how Kioti makes their setup and I basically copied the front hookup of the frame (in the middle of the tractor.)

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I had to chop off the existing hookup system on the NH subframe and welded on a 3/4 by 4" plate across the subframe which slides into the hooks I made that you see bolted on the tractor.

At the rear I made something similar to how Kioti makes their bracket - basically they remove the stock bracket that has the towbar tongue and replace that with a larger bracket that in addition to using the same bolt holes it also uses 2 bolts above it that hold the toplink bracket. I took my stock towbar bracket and added to it and make something similar to what Kioti does. (utilizing the same bolting points they use for their backhoe bracket.) On the subframe I welded a 1" round bar that slides into the bracket on the tractor.
The subframe is then kept from coming off the tractor by 2 pins that drop down behind the bar that's in the rear bracket. Again similar to the Kioti setup.

Sorry no good pictures of that bracket! Thought I had some so I'll have to post that up later if anyone's interested.

The only thing I did really different from Kioti is that I made the rear hookup points similar to the front in that the hook has an arm that extends back far enough that once I back the tracto up over the frame I can then lift the frame up till it contacts both the front and rear hooks and then at that point I just back up the last few inches and the backhoe is on, drop the pins in and I'm ready to go. The few test hookup's I did seemed pretty easy - 5 minute affairs, biggest challenge being driving back straight over the subframe.

Gave it a test run digging out a few stumps, worked great. The backhoe is not quite a manly as the Kioti one but frankly I can't see the differences as being something I'll be upset about down the road. It specs out not quite as powerful, it swings 150 degrees vs 180d degrees for the Kioti model but it will dig slightly deeper. (marginal - 4 inches!) And interestingly it's no where near as heavy which I think is actually a bonus as I've read lots of reports of guys saying they find the CK20 a bit back heavy with the hoe on. This backhoe isn't even as heavy as my rear counter weight! (800lbs concrete barrel.)

Now that I've tested it out and I'm happy with it the brackets will come off and get a coat of paint. The backhoe will loose the blues but not till the spring when things warm up.

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E.
 
   / Wiley's got the blues! #2  
Nice find, nice work adapting it to your machine.

Merry Christmas!
 
   / Wiley's got the blues! #3  
Good fit!!!...still better than shovel iron bar and pick. ;)
 
   / Wiley's got the blues! #5  
Looks good! Where did you get those pallet forks, or are they homemade?
 
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#6  
The forks are home made, I made them out of c-channel, they are originally designed to slip onto my bucket, but then I needed more lifting capacity so I made the pin on bracket that the slip onto as seen in the picture. Now I can lift to the max of what the loader will do. I've maxed out the lift and the forks were plenty strong enough. (loader is rated for 1100lbs I think.) C-channel is 3" by 1.5" if I remember right. I'm going to make a set for the 3pt next, I want to be able to carry 2 pallets at the same time.

E.
 
   / Wiley's got the blues! #7  
Great job! As soon as you can get some orange paint it will look like it was made for your tractor. Excellent job on the front brackets , they look exactly like mine....KG
 
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Thanks KG, here's a crap pic of the rear bracket:
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Not a great pic sorry - but if you can make it out you'll see I followed Kioti's example and added to the stock pull-bar bracket and made it similar to Kioti's backhoe frame bracket. The big difference is that if you can make out the tip of my finger pointing to the end of the bracket - I built in those extensions as a similar concept to the front brackets - it allows me to raise the backhoe frame up till it contacts both the front and rear brackets and then I jump on the tractor and back it up and the backhoe is mounted. The few tests I did on my driveway it seemed real easy to mount/dis-mount the backhoe from the tractor.
Ya it needs paint for sure! The blue/orange combo ain't working to well. I'll most likely paint it black though as I've got lots of that paint and no Kioti orange on hand. I do need to find a match for the frame "grey" color.

E.
 
   / Wiley's got the blues! #9  
Thanks KG, here's a crap pic of the rear bracket:
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Ya it needs paint for sure! The blue/orange combo ain't working to well. I'll most likely paint it black though as I've got lots of that paint and no Kioti orange on hand. I do need to find a match for the frame "grey" color.

E.

Could paint the tractor blue. :rolleyes: Good Looking setup. Happy digging.
 
   / Wiley's got the blues! #10  
I like the mod!
It looks so far back though. Seems like it could move forward a foot (though I'm sure there's something in there that stops that).
 

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