Are you guys hunkering down money wise?

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   / Are you guys hunkering down money wise?
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Hey Moss,

Tractor & lawn equipment addiction: check :(

Computer addiction: check :(

Automotive addiction Check Buddy can you spare a hundred for a gas fix :(

As an aside I have been looking around at small gas efficient used cars and it looks to me like they are so highly priced that you would be better off buying a new car. Your mileage may vary. :eek:

Chris
 
   / Are you guys hunkering down money wise? #22  
Have you guys ever heard Dave Ramsey on the radio or seen his show on FOX business news channel? He believes that "Cash is king and debt is dumb" If you can't afford to buy it without the credit card than don't buy it unless it is essential. He deals all day long with good folks who have gotten themselves deeply in debt by overspending with credit cards for things they didn't really need. Kind of like the way congress operates. Just my two cents.
-Mike



Dave also says to live off of less than you make . Not more than you make
 
   / Are you guys hunkering down money wise? #23  
We both made about $7.00 bucks an hour back then, which was about double the minimum wage.

If I can make $7.00 bucks an hr. off a job these days I feel I'am doing great
 
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If I can make $7.00 bucks an hr. off a job these days I feel I'am doing great

Or at least if you can make $7 cash off the books. :D:D:D

Chris
 
   / Are you guys hunkering down money wise? #25  
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 (enough to cover every thing you spend over a 6 month time) in the bank...

There are times when a bank is not safe either!:D
 
   / Are you guys hunkering down money wise? #26  
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 (enough to cover every thing you spend over a 6 month time) in the bank...

There are times when a bank is not safe either!:D


Yep, Heard that there are banks that haven't paid their FDIC. insurance premiums.
 
   / Are you guys hunkering down money wise? #27  
Last weekend, Cruchfield had a 3 day sale on TV's, Fri, Sat and Sun... I wanted (did'nt need) a new HDTV flat screen... went on Sunday during the last 30 minutes of the sale and picked up a new 32" HDTV for much less than the advertised price... There are some deals out there if you wait... that being said, I have probably lost $100,000 in the past year on investments (on paper only) but the 36 hole golf course next door seems to be doing ok, tournament today with catered lunch (free diner tonight for me) two tournaments sunday (free diner for me x 2 days). Wife works there... no travel involved, my gas bills are nothing compaired to most folks, filled the truck with gas last week (about $86.00) but probably will not need to buy gas until next year!

mark
 
   / Are you guys hunkering down money wise? #28  
18 months to 2 years ago, we were in the middle of paying for 2 properties. My combined mortgage payments were in excess of $2500 a month.

When we looked at our budget we quickly figured out its going to take us some time to sell our STL house so we need to get used to this.

Hear are the keys to how we made it work
1) no car payments. Havnt had any for the past 5 years.
2) combined house hold income just over 100K.

we quickly figured out we needed to move to a cash system quickly as to not wind up loseing everything.

all spending on "toys" stopped. we started hacking away at the 5K in credit card dept and worked hard not to put any more on it.

our spending on fun stuff, all but stopped, we didnt go out as much, we planed trips better to save gas, i shopped insurance (when you have 5 cars saving $100-$200 a month is very real possibility)

It took us nearly a year to get eveything cranked down, rained in. in that time we blew through about 10K in savings (cash) to make it work before we figured out how to do it on cash only.

We werent real worried about it long term because we were sitting on a PILE of cash in terms of house equity and SOME Day that would sell.

That day finnaly came in april of this year. We pocketed nearly $75K cash.

we refinaced the property, payed off the tractor, the last few thousand in credit card debt, the 401k loan for the septic system.... bought a new used car out of cash.

today we are a 100% cash household. It took nearly 1.5years to get that way though. its not something you do overnight.

We setup an automatic savings plan (the bank auto transfers money out of the checking to the savings) if we dont have the money in the checking account to pay for the toy we want, it doesnt get bought then. it waits till we have the CASH to do so. that doesnt mean i pay with green paper money everywere, just make shure i have cash in the bank when i run my debit card through.

-but we carry 0 credit card debt,
-our property payment is now $400 a month,
-still no car payment,
-no cell phone bill (pre paid)
-no sat/cable bill.

We continue to pour money into the property and we bought some toys after the sale of the house. I got a new welder and shop toys, the wife got an above ground pool.... all paid cash.

I was layed off nov of last year, had we not moved to a cash system before then we would have been screwed. as it was we could still make it work with unemployment. (we sold the house before the unemployment ran out)

I still dont have a 9-5 desk job and likely wont have one again. Today our toy spending is almost the way it was back in the "hay day". We save more money to long term savings now than we did when i was working and our household income was over 100K.

The current financial crisis does not affect me. My property loan is with a small local deposit bank. I have complete confidence in my ablity to get a loan from the same bank when i go to build my house in a few years. I dont need loans to buy a car, i pay cash.

Those people that are currently caught up in the finical crisis were just stupid about there spending. There is no long complicated "it wasnt my fault" explanations needed.

Cut the credit cards up, learn how to balance a checkbook.

hears a free hint on getting started. Pull $100 out of the checking account every week on the same day. leave all plastic at home in the drawer. Open your wallet and look at the cash you have to "live" on for that week. gas, food, lunch, everything. if you dont have the cash in your wallet, you dont buy it period!
 
   / Are you guys hunkering down money wise? #29  
now the bail out bill is a LOAN to buy all these 300K homes that were taken back from people that walked away from the house. the loans are backed by the real estate and when the FEDS buy these blocks of homes they will be getting the homes to sell at a later date when things are better as well as when they lower the prices back to what the home is valued at not over inflated by the boom in house prices. it may take a few years to SELL these homes buying them CHEAP from banks that are in trouble and selling them later the feds will make money. the feds are probably be paying 10 to 40 cents on the dollar for these blocks of home loans.

BUT REMEMBER THAT STOCKS ARE NOT 100% SAFE and you can loose a good part or even most of you're investments..."

The problem is that people walked away from homes worth $150k, with mortgages of $400k. Is the Fed buying these mortgages for the full amount? It will take 20 years for these houses to worth the full mortgage amount.

Remember stocks are gambling, a form of legal gambling, some people call it investing. ;)
 
   / Are you guys hunkering down money wise? #30  
The problem is that people walked away from homes worth $150k, with mortgages of $400k. Is the Fed buying these mortgages for the full amount? It will take 20 years for these houses to worth the full mortgage amount.

worth 150K? when? to who? its only worth what you can get someone to pay you for it. if i bought it for 250K its worth 250k then....

someone thought it was "worth" 400K a few years ago... stands to reason someone will think the same thing in 5-10 years from now.

even if it did take 20 years... what does the gov't care.. they are going to be there in 20 years...
 
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