Caucasian ovcharka

[WantedWolf]

Kazzoontite right!

Wolves and wild dogs got me thinking about protection animals.

For a few years Ive been researching and dreaming of getting a few of these
dogs. they have a few names it seems, Ovcharka, caucasion mountain dog, Kavkazskaya Ovcharka. etc.

Has anyone had any experiences with them.

 

[thatguy]

Those are some BIG doggies.. OR those are 'little ppl' in the second picture.. The first pic looks more like a lion due to the mane..

Post pics if and when you get one..

Brian

 

[SnowRidge]

I hope you can get their dog food wholesale. You'll need a lot.

 

[WantedWolf]

if i remember they were like 160+ lbs

yeah the food id love to have 3 or 6 but for the responsibility factor ill aim for 2

The lion look is rare compared to the bear look and soom have bright blue eyes like a husky.

 

[coobie]

Kazzoontite right!

Wolves and wild dogs got me thinking about protection animals.

For a few years Ive been researching and dreaming of getting a few of these
dogs. they have a few names it seems, Ovcharka, caucasion mountain dog, Kavkazskaya Ovcharka. etc.

Has anyone had any experiences with them.

I hope you don,t have any small children around.coobie

 

[Ken_CT]

This site has some good info on the dogs. It appears that they are not all the same dogs with different names. They seem like the type of dog that need an owner with experience with dog training.

The Ovcharkas - what are they?

 

[milkman]

I hope you can get their dog food wholesale. You'll need a lot.

And a tractor with a FEL to carry off the poo, a cousin had a Great Dane and it crapped piles like a cow.

 

[dqdave1]

They just came to the USA; they will KILL an intruder or anyone not supposed to be there. They are very dominent and the owner HAS to be in control. Check with your insurance provider to see if you are insured having a dog like this. I would not want anything to do with one.

 

[WantedWolf]

Yes I agree the owner needs to be in complete control
there is a national geographic vid on you tube about them
YouTube - Caucasian Ovcharka Documentary on NGC

the guy there should have his dog taken away for everyones sake it drags him down the road 15ft to bite a sedan.

ive been following a breeder in the states since 03 but i think theyve been here longer then that (esquire caucasions)

I have had many dogs over the years but the largest was my german rottwieler brutus. it not something im rushing into, i guess someone could lie on the application but from esquire its an intense process to aquire a puppy which filters out alot of the poor owners there so many people that should not be allowed animals. (like i now fight with my neighbor for pounding his pitbull in the head and leaving it out all winter.)

I will require a dog for flock protection , and it must have a good winter coat.
So this is kind of my dream dog. oh and we dont have any small children.

 

[Erik_in_Hoyt]

Great Pyr or Anatolian Shepherd would do pretty well, and Great Pyrs can be trained to be friendly to people, but will hunt down coyote/wolf/feral dogs in the area pretty efficiently - and they havbe plenty of fur coat to keep save in the winter.

 

[Tororider]

Here would be my choice if I had the space and a wife who was unallergic to dogs.


Irish Wolfhound - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[milkman]

Get ready for the comments "The Chihuahua is one of the most aggressive breeds going so these can't be that bad, there are only bad dog owners"

 

[Knotbored]

Get ready for the comments "The Chihuahua is one of the most aggressive breeds going so these can't be that bad, there are only bad dog owners"

My pup is half chihuahua and half aligator. He is so agressive my wife requires that I hide and lock up my guns. Those big dogs would be fun to own but a crook could get away by hiding in a car, my pup would just run in thru the tailpipe and shred their pantlegs.

 

[Tororider]

My pup is half chihuahua and half aligator. He is so agressive my wife requires that I hide and lock up my guns. Those big dogs would be fun to own but a crook could get away by hiding in a car, my pup would just run in thru the tailpipe and shred their pantlegs.

Funny, very funny. I would love to see a picture of your dog. I assume he swims well and can hold his breath for long periods of time. Would probably be a good dog to put in a moat.

 

[Ken_CT]

Here would be my choice if I had the space and a wife who was unallergic to dogs.


Irish Wolfhound - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tororider, I have had 2 and 1/2 Irish wolfhounds. They are wonderful, gentle dogs. Basically couch potatoes. They are great with people and kids, the only problem with young kids is the dog is so big it can accidentally knock them over. As mellow as they are, they can be protective, but they are not watch dogs. They would invited the burgler in and show them around the house. I used to take my first one with me all the time and I had a leash that was basically a handle with a hook on it, only because of leash laws. We were at a fair and some young punk had a viscious Doberman who was getting aggressive toward Shaun. The dog was released by the little jerk and came to attack. I let go of the leash as I was not about to get in the middle of a dog fight. It was like watching a ballet, Shaun sidestepped, grabbed the dog by the throat and flipped him over onto his back like a doll. All the time his tail was wagging, he was having fun. He didn't kill the dog or even do any damage, but the other dog took off when released. The IWs were bred to kill wolfs and Great Elk. They would kill the wolf by breaking it's neck or back. As gentle as these dogs are, they still "have it in them" when required. I was rough housing with Shaun in the yard one time and I shoved him as I was turning around and ended up with my back to him, he then (playfully) grabbed me around my waist. He had his jaws around my waist! Good thing he was playing. I want to get another one, and will but I have an older rescue mutt now who probably would not be happy with another dog. A problem with the giants are they are short lived. Shaun lived to 10 years 4 months which is very long, but Murphy died at 4 because of kidney problem. These dogs are difficult to get, I went through a number of interviews for my first to prove I would be a fit owner, and I drove to Canada to pick up Murphy. The cost of the dog is probably the cheapest part. They require a special diet when very young because they grow so fast. It would be like a person reaching 6' tall in less than a year. And get ready for the question you will hear about a 1,000 times..."where's his saddle". All of my hounds were great with other dogs and cats, and were really terrific pets, but you need room and time. A bored IW pup can eat a couch in no time, ask me how I know. When I say I had 1/2 IW, I mean I had an IW/Belgian Shepard mix that was a rescue. I went to Massachussets to get him for a companion to murphy as I usually have at least 2 dogs and a cat so they can play together. The mix was named Ralph, and he was a 155 lb. "Baby Huey" for those of you who can remember the cartoon. Shaun was 37" at the shoulder, which means that if were standing in your kitchen, his back would be 1 inch higher than the countertops. They are all gone now sad to say, and I miss them all.
The pic is of Murphy at 1 year old, The old picture is of Shaun. For reference, I am 5' 10".

 

[DennisArrow]

While I honor your desire for a BIG dog, I question a couple of things. Do you have room or environment for one? Do you really have the ability to train one or will it actually train for what you want it to do?

We have 4 permanent Pryenese and Anatolian livestock guard dogs (LGD). We raise about a litter per year, of pyr/anatolian mixes, and sell them to other livestock breeders. Gets rid of the long hair of the pyr but still have a double winter coat, a bit more loving/obedient, and a bit more active/alert. It is said, and believable, that their true range is perhaps 500 acres. We have them in several pastures with at least 2 dogs per pasture. They are easily kept in check with electric wire fencing. If a gate is left open they are GONE.
What they call a pyrenese off a leash? GONE.............That is one of the questions above of can you actually train them? LGDs are NOT obedience dogs. They are independent. One can leave them in a pasture for weeks at a time with just the critters and they are fine, happy, and do their JOB. In the past, I have often spent a lot of time training them obedience commands. Sit, stay, come, etc................TRIED TO DO THIS.......It is their independent nature to do what THEY WANT TO DO, not specifically you. If they want to come to you they will. IF THEY ARE OUT AND LOOSE, they dont want to. They want to head for the hills and do their job. Their job is finding predators that are gonna get their buddies, the flock, the herd, your family. Does this include a neighbor dog, cats, any critter that it sees move, YES. Can you stand the liability? No they seldom even alert to a human; nor go into attack mode, so that is a blessing.
When we sell our puppies we learned long ago to screen our potential clients. We never sell to anyone with just a city yard lot or an apartment. We stronly hesitate to anyone with just 5 acres or an unfenced pasture. It really isn't fair to the dog, for they will just head out for the hills and WILL BE A NUISANCE to everyone.

Anyway........on and on.............If you have the land go for it.......KNOW WHAT THE NATURE OF THE BREED IS...........We would love to have one of our LGDs as a porch/yard dogs; but we get enough calls from neighbors down the road complaining about our peacocks on their roof, let alone a LGD killing their predator peekapoo...........

Good luck.........Dennis

 

[Bird]

Get ready for the comments "The Chihuahua is one of the most aggressive breeds going so these can't be that bad, there are only bad dog owners"

Is that a rumor started by owners of big dangerous dogs? I've heard that frequently, but I've been around several Chihuahuas and they were always friendly little boogers. Of course the 3 year old Chihuahua we now have is "aggressive" alright. She doesn't care about your age, race, ***, national origin, religion, or marital status, if you show up around here she'll be all over you to see if you'll play. She never met a stranger and loves everyone. Even when a little kid has hurt her, she's never learned to growl, snarl, or bite. And a couple of Chihuahuas in the neighborhood are just about the same.

 

[milkman]

Is that a rumor started by owners of big dangerous dogs?

I heard somewhere that was a rumor started by Chihuahua owners to keep the muggers, robbers, and rapists at bay when they hear the blood curdling barking and snarling of the raging beasts on the other side of the door as they're preparing to break the door down.

 

[KentT]

I heard somewhere that was a rumor started by Chihuahua owners to keep the muggers, robbers, and rapists at bay when they hear the blood curdling barking and snarling of the raging beasts on the other side of the door as they're preparing to break the door down.

You raise a good point. As long as the owner is home, the only thing the "guard dog" needs to do is sense the potential intruder and alert the owner...

Many, many breeds will fulfill that role well... without being vicious, "attack dogs"...

 

[Bird]

You raise a good point. As long as the owner is home, the only thing the "guard dog" needs to do is sense the potential intruder and alert the owner...

Many, many breeds will fulfill that role well... without being vicious, "attack dogs"...

Yep, that's all I want a dog to do, and this Chihuahua can sure do that? In fact, I sometimes wish she didn't bark so loud. But at least she doesn't bark until she sees something outside move.