Well water question

   / Well water question #31  
Tank is dark green plastic. Round shape about 12 feet diameter and 10 feet tall. Water enters from the top and exit from bottom. Booster pump is set about 6 inches from the bottom. You are right about the bleach. It does cause the iron to settle to the bottom. So, is it a good or bad thing to use bleach to treat the water? Currenly, I don't live there fulltime. So the water in the tank does not get replaced very often. Is it a bad idea to have such a big tank? should I by pass the storage tank altogether or go with a smaller tank? thanks.

The reason I asked about your tank was that I was facilities mng at Pepsi, and our water treatment system was fairly simple but very effective .After looking at your setup you would have to make to many changes to your system to work.
The use of bleach is good but you are taking the water from the bottom of the tank you will end up with more iron then ,if you could blow off the bottom of the tank after that might help.
IMO I would bypass the tank
 
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The reason I asked about your tank was that I was facilities mng at Pepsi, and our water treatment system was fairly simple but very effective .After looking at your setup you would have to make to many changes to your system to work.
The use of bleach is good but you are taking the water from the bottom of the tank you will end up with more iron then ,if you could blow off the bottom of the tank after that might help.
IMO I would bypass the tank

How can I easily by pass the tank with my current setup? My water system currently consist of a small 5gpm submerged pump in the well that fills the tank controlled by a float switch. The house is pressurized by a variable speed booster pump inside the tank. Well has 12gpm flow rate. I don't know the water level but the well is 480ft deep. Any sugguestions? I have a feeling that my current system is not the best design...
 

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   / Well water question #33  
How can I easily by pass the tank with my current setup? My water system currently consist of a small 5gpm submerged pump in the well that fills the tank controlled by a float switch. The house is pressurized by a variable speed booster pump inside the tank. Well has 12gpm flow rate. I don't know the water level but the well is 480ft deep. Any sugguestions? I have a feeling that my current system is not the best design...

can you get by on 5 gpm ?
 
   / Well water question #35  
it would be best to try and suck form the middle of the tank, not bottom, can you raise up the intake some, (will only need 4 ~6") but better than very bottom. also you may want to put a small circulatory pump and 2nd filter and simply filter the tank water back into it's self as a pre-filter operation for times when the water has set for a while. maybe run it on a timer.

there are also small bleach injectors which can inject small amounts of bleach into the running stream of water coming out of the well. The bleach will burn off after a few days in the tank but will also kill off any bacteria that may want to build up in there as well as any coming from the well & help fall out the Iron. you may even want to consider putting in a 2nd smaller tank that gravity flows over into the main tank and set it up so that the flow swirls into the small tank this will pull heavy stuff to the center of the tank and can be easily dumped.

Mark
 
   / Well water question #36  
Drilled a new deep well last year. Water was great for the first 2 months, then came the H2S... smell was barely noticible at first, then got progressivly worse. Took the plumbers advise and shocked the well with about 2 gallons of ultra bleach and let it sit over night in all the pipes and well. Flushed the well for about half a day and everything was good (except for the slight odor or the bleach in the water). Well that lasted about 2 weeks and the smell came back about 10x as bad! Its to the point now where if someone showers the entire house stinks like a rotton egg. Even if the dishwasher is going. Anyway I find myself dumping a gallon of bleach in the well per month and I end up running the pump about 5 times as much as it should be ran due to the fact that I need to flush the well after shocking. Plus I have to let sit for so long etc. a real inconvience...

Did the rod removal already. The smell is the same for hot/cold water.

Believe me when I say ANY help is greatly appreciated.
 
   / Well water question #37  
My advise would be stop putting bleach down your well,it corrodes metal,and does other nasty things. Might be to late though.
 
   / Well water question #38  
rhofford- You need an aerator. It sprays the water and lets the sulphur gas escape. You place them between the well and the house. They use two pumps, one from the well and then one to the house. They are commonly used around here. If you just google you should find more info.
 
   / Well water question #39  
Hi Dutch. She isn't getting as much sodium from the softened water as she does from other beverages and food. Check the labels. Also, get a sodium test of the raw water and show her how much is in it; all waters contain some. The formula for added sodium by your softener is in my last post above.

To reduce/remove sodium you need an RO or distiller.
 
   / Well water question #40  
Thanks for the informative post. I'm curious to know why Manganese greensand is not a good choice. The other company recommends Managanese greensand...
Got some more info from the well guy. Currently, water directly out of the well is 18ppm iron. I have a 5500gal holding tank. The high iron water pump into the tank and the iron oxidizes and settles to the bottom. My system has a variable speed booster pump installed inside the tank to pressurized the house. I was told to add chlorine to the tank on a regular basis. The water came out of the holding tank only has 4ppm iron. Somehow, the holding tank removes a lot of iron or concentrate the iron at the bottom of the tank. I must flush and clean the tank once a year.
Manganese greensand is regenerated with potassium permanganate, a serious poison and it's expensive.

You have ferrous clear water iron coming into that tank from the well. The water is depressurized and aerated in the tank. Oxygen is an oxidizer and will convert some of the ferrous iron into ferric red water iron (rust) in the tank. Bleach contains sodium hypochlorite (chlorine) and chlorine is an oxidizer so all the ferrous is converted to ferric iron and the water becomes rusty and over time the rust settles to the bottom of the tank. Without the bleach, you still have 4 ppm of ferrous iron in the water and a correctly sized softener or iron filter will remove it.

For the guy constantly shocking his well, that is a bad idea and can make your problem worse, reduce the water production of the well and/or cause expensive water quality, pump and cable problems.

Foe the guys suggesting disposable cartridge filters, they will not remove ferrous iron and otherwise are a poor choice when an automatically backwashed filter should be used.
 

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