End of The New Yankee Workshop

[Iplayfarmer]

TOH is now working on houses that 99% of people can't afford.

They got sucked in the the "yuppie" palace syndrome.

I used to like that show, but it is over the top and unrealistic.

Who needs a 6,000 square foot house????

But, the whole time they're showing the 6,000 square foot home re-build they're doing vignettes about how small spaces can be very functional. I guess they're trying to balance the McMansion they're building.

 

[Iplayfarmer]

Iplayfarmer: I used to watch Hometime on TLC i think. I didnt know it was still on. I dont think its on a channel that i get here, if it is , i havent seen it.

I catch it on PBS. Their website refers to PBS too. There's a menu where you can look up schedules in your state.

 

[Scooby074]

I catch it on PBS. Their website refers to PBS too. There's a menu where you can look up schedules in your state.

Thanks for the effort, but my state (besides confusion) is the province of Nova Scotia

We only get WGBH Boston for PBS up here. It looks like their sister station (create) carries it, but thats not available here.

On the positive side, it looks like Hometime's website has some streaming episodes so i can catch up a bit there. Are there any new episodes being made? Or just repeats?

A little more info about the end of the show:

It looks like Norm wanted out. There was a mutual decision between Morash and WGBH to stop production.

They didnt want to "Replace Norm" because of the inevitable comparisons. I have a hard time with that. While it would be hard to jump right in, with the right host, the show could continue, or perhaps improve. While Norm is an excellent carpenter, some of his techniques are a little rough around the edges, perhaps someone with a different or more refined style (like a fine furniture maker who designs then builds) could take over? Remember Johnny Carson wasnt the original host of the Tonight Show, and look what it became under his watch.

An interesting quote:

"My own view is that broadcast is dead," Morash said. "That's my personal take on it. Newspapers are dead. And print is dying. The only hope is the Internet. And it's my hope that you'll see lots of Norm on the Internet in the future." http://blog.woodworking-magazine.com/blog/Norm+Abram+Closes+Up+Shop.aspx

So maybe a podcast is in Norms future? Was there a fight between Morash and PBS? And what will the end of The New Yankee do to the already struggling sales of flannel shirts?

 

[woodchuckcanuck]

woodchuckcanuck: subscribed to your channel. When you going to upload new stuff?

I only got that vid camera a while ago, so I'll probably make use of it when the tractor arrives tomorrow.

"About Holmes inspection. Ive watched the Asbestos episode." I watched it too. They tore out the entire basement ceiling to get at the chase runs. But what about the runs going up to the first and second level of the home?? The "only" reason I watch the show now is to catch glimpses of that "HOT" and I do mean "HAWT" carpenter. Holy Moly! Hey, you ever watch the show "House"? You know the doc with the long red hair, "13" was her nickname. Well this gal on Holmes Inpsection I refer to as "13.1 - the upgraded version". All jokes aside, they could easily pass as sisters.

"Some have said its essentially "Damien on Homes", which sounds MUCH better than "Damien on Holmes" lol."
LOL, you know there are rumors floating around Halifax about Holmes being at a couple of bar.

"Id like to see way more detail. Setups etc. Not TV cooking show magic. A whole house rebuilt in a 22 minute show"
That's always been my beef too. One thing i did learn out of that show was the metal bracing used for the bulk heads. Here I am, trying to finish the basement and I'm still using 1x3. At least I can hang off of mine (the strength test).

"If your interested theres a good thread over on CanadianWoodworking forum." Haven't been there in a while. Last time I spoke with Paul Fulcher on the phone they were changing the format of the mag to include home improvement.

As for podcasts, that might be the direction they are taking. Cheaper to produce and a much larger audience. Personally I can't get myself to sit through podcasts. Same goes for snippets of news etc. Its like watching a dvd on the computer. Why would I watch a movie on a 20" monitor if I have a 42" monitor out in the family room? Eventually I might warm up to the idea.

 

[MossRoad]

MossRoad

and your point is?

Sounds like jealousy to me.

On which post? The one where I cannot afford the tools that Norm uses or the one where my grandparents got forced out of their cottage by rich people?

Be specific!

 

[Scooby074]

woodchuckcanuck: Remember "Pinky"? But Kate on Inspection is pretty hot too. I had to laugh at the asbestos episode, Kate was standing there lookin pretty while the guys were lugging out the stuff from the basement. Wonder why she was hired?

On the metal studs. Ive been thinking about going over to them myself. Im getting tired of the crap that central calls wood. Ive spent hours there picking through lifts looking for "decent" wood. At least metal would be straight, but its weaker at least till the drywall is on.

Im not a fan of podcasts. I have my computer wired into my TV and stereo so its not totally a size of screen issue. I dont know what it is but something is missing. Another beef is alot of these guys doing podcasts, start off free, which is nice, then once they have a few fans, start charging or trying to sell DVD's. I got no issue with trying to make money, but its sort of like a sellout to the fans to stop the free podcasts and go to dvd.

I used to watch Marc Spagnello (wood whisperer) and tommy Macdonald (tchisel) but the number of new free podcasts by these guys has dropped, while the for sale DVD's has increased.

I sure hope Mike didnt see his "Reflection" while in Halifax, but it wouldnt surprise me.

 

[woodchuckcanuck]

I liked Pinky. Something happened down in New Orleans for her to quit. I know at that time Kate's dad wasn't well so she got to fly home to see him. Everybody else had to stay until the job was done. Pinky said on teh show that she missed her family and wanted to go home. Next thing I knew, Holmes was showing her the road. Too bad. As for Kate, I'm sure she's competent at her job. But take note of the camerman and what he decides to show in his camera angles. He could be a little less obvious....this isn't Spike TV.

I have to agree on the quality of wood, man, its pretty bad. If you don't stud it in place while its still wet, you'll be working with hockey sticks.

My vids will always be free Not sure you'll learn anything though

Reflection...LOL! I can tell a story that a cabby told me but I can't put it in print...might be held liable.

 

[jayste]

Long live Norm! Lately I haven't watched too much of him but always enjoyed seeing him in action either on TOH or NYW. I guess the show needed sponsors so he had to push those fancy, expensive, "your-average-guy-can't-afford" tools. Probably started out being a pretty cool "gig" but you know how it goes when commercialism takes a hold. Big bucks, corporate "know-it-alls", board of directors......It probalby became distasteful. Maybe a trip in the sailboat will give him a new perspective and direction.

Jay

 

[/pine]

just curious...several times in this thread and on a recent show on the DIY network I have heard the term "bulkhead" used...on the show I saw on the DIY network the individual was referring to a "soffit" or "chase" that was built to conceal ductwork...is that what is being referred to in this thread?

If so, IMO this is incorrect vernacular...chases or soffits are not bulkheads...please don't tell me this is another case of "regional"colloquial terms...

 

[GPintheMitten]

Maybe Norm will do a New Yankee BoatShop. Now that I would like. Of course, I enjoyed his NYW show tremendously.

 

[MossRoad]

Maybe Norm will do a New Yankee BoatShop. Now that I would like. Of course, I enjoyed his NYW show tremendously.

He did build a boat on NYW.

 

[Scooby074]

his camera angles. He could be a little less obvious....this isn't Spike TV.

I likes the camera angles..... Hooray for cleavage.

hockey sticks.

Aint that the truth. Hard to build a straight wall with curved wood. I think Centrals wood was sawed by Sher-wood

Reflection...LOL! I can tell a story that a cabby told me but I can't put it in print...might be held liable.

I can imagine. On one of the other sites i visit, theres been some discussion about his "overcompensation" .Remember "Right said Fred" ?

 

[woodchuckcanuck]

Aint that the truth. Hard to build a straight wall with curved wood. I think Centrals wood was sawed by Sher-wood

Next time you are in my neck of the woods, stop in. I'll show you our 4 yr old home and how ScotianHomes managed to F it up.

 

[Scooby074]

Next time you are in my neck of the woods, stop in. I'll show you our 4 yr old home and how ScotianHomes managed to F it up.

Sure thing. Im a bit suprised. I thought Scotian did good work? I guess not.

 

[Scooby074]

just curious...several times in this thread and on a recent show on the DIY network I have heard the term "bulkhead" used...on the show I saw on the DIY network the individual was referring to a "soffit" or "chase" that was built to conceal ductwork...is that what is being referred to in this thread?

If so, IMO this is incorrect vernacular...chases or soffits are not bulkheads...please don't tell me this is another case of "regional"colloquial terms...

This could be an interesting debate. At lease in my experience, we refer to a box built around a duct or similar as a "bulkhead".

The underside of a rafter where it overhangs a wall is a Soffit.

And a "chase" is a passageway where a pipe or wire is fished through.

Could be a regional thing, but at least on several shows filmed in ontario, they use the same terms as we do locally

 

[woodchuckcanuck]

Scoob's definitions are the same as mine. And since I'm from the Rock, "colloquial" doesn't come into play...or does it? I'm just glad someone spelled colloquial, I would have just said 'colorful'.

 

[/pine]

Not trying to be argumentative...I just only last week heard the term "bulkhead" being used as something to conceal ductwork (on a DYI program) and I almost fired off a message to the network stating that the guy did not know what he was talking about because what he was calling a "bulkhead" was actually soffit...(by defination anyway)...hence my interest when in the same week I read the term in this thread...

...we refer to a box built around a duct or similar as a "bulkhead"....

I would like to hear the reasoning for this...I can find no reference to the term (bulkhead) searching definitions of the word that would match the usage described...

Using your favorite search engine try a query define : bulkhead

coming from a background as a shipwright/fabricator (I also have extensive experience in residential finish carpentry/millwork) I have always know them basically as "drops" but never a "bulkhead" what I know of as a bulkhead is exactly what is described by the search results in the query I mentioned above...

with all due respect...I also refer to them (drops) as "soffits" if you run the query define : soffit you will find several references (among the common exterior examples) to structures that are used between the top of kitchen (and other) cabinets and the ceiling...
...just curious...do those of you that refer to the structures built around duct work etc as "bulkheads"... also refer to structures above cabinets as bulkheads?

considering the fact that the structures built above cabinets is exactly the same as those that conceal duct work etc. (just no cabinet under them) I rest my case..

BTW...one of the first jobs I ever had was installing bulkheads in sailing hulls for 'Morgan Yachts' which later (1974) became 'Endeavor Yacht'...

 

[Scooby074]

Not trying to be argumentative...I just only last week heard the term "bulkhead" being used as something to conceal ductwork (on a DYI program) and I almost fired off a message to the network stating that the guy did not know what he was talking about because what he was calling a "bulkhead" was actually soffit...(by defination anyway)...hence my interest when in the same week I read the term in this thread...




I would like to hear the reasoning for this...I can find no reference to the term (bulkhead) searching definitions of the word that would match the usage described...

Using your favorite search engine try a query define : bulkhead

coming from a background as a shipwright/fabricator (I also have extensive experience in residential finish carpentry/millwork) I have always know them basically as "drops" but never a "bulkhead" what I know of as a bulkhead is exactly what is described by the search results in the query I mentioned above...

with all due respect...I also refer to them (drops) as "soffits" if you run the query define : soffit you will find several references (among the common exterior examples) to structures that are used between the top of kitchen (and other) cabinets and the ceiling...
...just curious...do those of you that refer to the structures built around duct work etc as "bulkheads"... also refer to structures above cabinets as bulkheads?

considering the fact that the structures built above cabinets is exactly the same as those that conceal duct work etc. (just no cabinet under them) I rest my case..

BTW...one of the first jobs I ever had was installing bulkheads in sailing hulls for 'Morgan Yachts' which later (1974) became 'Endeavor Yacht'...

As a boatbuilder you have a different idea (and perhaps a dictionary correct) definition of a bulkhead, however in practice, at least where i come from, and id say eastern canada in particular a bulkhead is as ive described.

In a kitchen or den, a box bumped out above a cabinet to hold a potlight etc, is also called a bulkhead.

Soffits are generally under a rafter, etc.

It may be dictionary incorrect, but if i was talking about building a soffit around a heating duct, people would be wondering why i was running a heating duct thru the rafters.

 

[woodchuckcanuck]

Not arguementative at all. Depends on who is doing the defining. In my lifetime of carpentry a bulkhead was material that wrapped anything protruding from a ceiling that could not be hidden in a wall. Mostly found in basement ceiling locations. They are 'bulky' and you often bang your 'head' if you are not careful, or, something that is 'overhead', therefore 'bulkhead'. That's my definition.

Soffits are what I refer to as the extension of the roof that overhangs the exterior wall. Any carpenter or contractor salesperson I've ever spoken with references the 'soffit area' where perforated soffit is installed to control the airflow to the attic area. The amount of soffit perforation (holes in the material) to install is determined by the square footage of the attic space and the sq footage of the exhaust area. Most installers nowadays run perf soffit all the way around. Gable ends rarely have airflow (behind the rake board) so gable end roofs usually have vents. Of course, there's the current use of contineuous vents on teh roof but htat's another discusison.

Same for the boxed in areas above cabinets, I've always referred to them as bulkhead. Simply look at a trademan, point and say 'Remove that bulkhead.' Job done.

 

[/pine]

OK I will have to accept it as a regional term...

I too come with long experience in residential carpentry...not just boatworks...the only time I have ever seen the term used was in foundations where an opening was made to create a stairwell etc...

anywhere in the SE it is like you say...if someone said frame a "bulkhead" they would look at you funny... it would be a "drop" or a "soffit" and sometimes a "chase" (usually vertical rather than horizontal)

Thanks for the clairification...and the discussion...

one more question...when you frame a bulkhead around a duct...do you use a henway?