I think I have made my mind up. After some research that got finally got done after months of toying with it I am going to buy the tractor side qa face plate from new Holland. the best price I can find is $556 in Pennsylvania and then it would cost a 100 or so to ship to me. Locally within 50-100 miles the best price I can get it is 587(wow sticker shock). I can pick that up so seems to be the best deal. as far as qa goes i have looked at several other companies and have not found any prices that beat new Holland and the faceplate doesn稚 stick out a long ways in front of the loader. I would like to get the pallet forks know and am going to see if by getting the qa face plate and pallets at the same time would help price ouch. I am going to convert my bucket and snow plow probably next spring summer but at least I will have the adaptor in case prices go up which they always seem to. If I get the forks now great, if not I can wait a few months and either keep looking for used ones or just go ahead with new ones