bobcat and kioti are one in the same, but bobcat can sell them cheaper, that really gripes my dealer, he says kioti is starting to sell a lot of tractors and the are getting the big head and putting demands on thier dealers. and he can't sell his kiotis the same price and make anything like the same tractor as the bobcat. and every quarter kioti want the dealers to buy tractors and to get a discount they try to get them to buy certain models that are new to the line up. this area i live in can support smaller machines from 40 horsepower on down. the utillity vehicles don't sell because of the cost. on the other hand the cub cadet utility vehicles sell like hot cakes, and the cub cadet mowers out sell the husquvarna by 10 to 1. he's looking to add TYM tractors to his line because he sees kioti being troublesome in the future and he's the kind of guy that will tell them where they can stick it if they get to big for thier briches it pays to be a multi franchise dealer these day, and not rely on one brand. you never know when they'll crap on you.