DOT and non comercial traffic

   / DOT and non comercial traffic #181  
So far, in WA, you do not have to provide proof of liability insurance to register/renew. If you did that, I think we would have less cars on the roads here... or more unlicensed vehicles. Or fake insurance cards..... we have lots of 'seasonal labor'.

In addition to registration and renewal, you also have to show proof of liability insurance to get your annual safety inspection sticker. You can buy insurance on the monthly payment plan, pay for one month, get your insurance card, then cancel, or just don't pay anymore and they'll cancel you. So the numbers I've seen are that about 25% of the cars (or drivers) on the road have no liability insurance. I don't know how accurate it will be, but Texas has a new computer program so an officer can check to see whether you have insurance. Supposedly, the insurance companies will notify the state promptly if a policy is cancelled or expires. That's supposed to take care of those who only paid for one month in order to get the card. And now more and more departments are starting to tow/impound vehicles stopped without insurance instead of just writing a ticket. So that makes it really expensive to get caught; one ticket, one tow fee, daily storage fees, AND you have to have proof of the insurance to get the vehicle out of the pound.
 
   / DOT and non comercial traffic #182  
In addition to registration and renewal, you also have to show proof of liability insurance to get your annual safety inspection sticker. You can buy insurance on the monthly payment plan, pay for one month, get your insurance card, then cancel, or just don't pay anymore and they'll cancel you. So the numbers I've seen are that about 25% of the cars (or drivers) on the road have no liability insurance. I don't know how accurate it will be, but Texas has a new computer program so an officer can check to see whether you have insurance. Supposedly, the insurance companies will notify the state promptly if a policy is cancelled or expires. That's supposed to take care of those who only paid for one month in order to get the card. And now more and more departments are starting to tow/impound vehicles stopped without insurance instead of just writing a ticket. So that makes it really expensive to get caught; one ticket, one tow fee, daily storage fees, AND you have to have proof of the insurance to get the vehicle out of the pound.


That's one way to make sure people get insurance. So, what's the history on this insurance thing in TX? Was it passed for a safety thing or did people think it was all about the insurance companies making more money?
 
   / DOT and non comercial traffic #183  
That's one way to make sure people get insurance. So, what's the history on this insurance thing in TX? Was it passed for a safety thing or did people think it was all about the insurance companies making more money?

I'll let you decide for yourself.:laughing: Before auto liability insurance became mandatory, we had an entirely different system. In those days, the police put an "estimated" damage amount on the accident reports, and the police responded to any and all auto accidents, and while the "investigation" may not have been much on minor accidents, they were all reported. In addition, anyone involved in an accident with an apparent damage of $50 or more was required to file their own "blue form"; i.e., their own accident report with the state. On that report, they included their insurance information. In the event they had no insurance, they received a letter from the Texas Department of Public Safety giving their options:

1. Send DPS a release of liability signed by anyone else involved in the accident,
2. Send DPS proof that you did, in fact, have insurance, or had filed with the state the necessary paperwork to be self-insured (which you would have done to start with if you had such),
3. Send DPS a deposit in the amount of the total estimated damage (yours and the other person's), or
4. Send DPS your drivers license and vehicle license plates.

If you sent the deposit, it would be returned after one year (but you received no interest on that money) unless other persons involved in the accident had filed a lawsuit for damages against you.

But then the courts decided that the DPS was penalizing you and/or suspending your drivers license without a court hearing, so they decided the DPS could no longer do that. After all, lawyers have to make a living, too, and they needed the business.:laughing:

I had some personal experience with the old system while I was still in the police recruit school.:laughing: I was driving down a 4 lane street in the right lane in a suburban city, when a guy in the inside lane turned right into his driveway. He caught my left front fender with the side of his car and took me right up into his yard. He was real nice; went inside, called the police, and came back with pencils and paper for us to exchange information. When the officer arrived and asked what happened, I let the other guy talk. He told the officer, "I just turned into my driveway and he ran into the side of my car." The officer asked which lane he was in, and he was truthful. I didn't have to say a word. The officer wrote him a ticket for "negligent collision", and that guy had no insurance. He told me to get my "bleeping" car out of his yard and I told I would, just as soon as the wrecker could get there. So, my insurance paid to fix my car, and I paid the $100 deductible (remember, my salary at that time was $370 a month:D). A week or so later, the guy called to tell me he had received a form from the state that I had to sign. I told him I was familiar with it and I'd sign it when he paid for the damage to my car. He asked, "Didn't you have insurance?' and I told him I did, but that I was out the $100 deductible. So he offered to pay me the $100 and I told him my insurance company would want their money, too. So then he told me he'd talked to my insurance agent and the agent told him it was OK if he just paid me the $100. I told him to have the insurance agent call and tell me that himself. Then he asked, "Who is your agent?":laughing: I told him and we hung up.

A week or two later, a representative from the insurance company showed up at the police academy to see me. He had the release form for me to sign, and a check for my $100 (from the insurance company) and said they had collected all their money from that guy.:laughing: I guess he needed to keep his driver's license.:laughing:

Of course, now . . . things have changed. The police don't even respond to auto accidents unless (1) eomeone is injured, or (2) a wrecker is needed to remove one or more vehicles. No police report of an accident is generated.
 
   / DOT and non comercial traffic #184  
In Indiana you have to have proof of insurance to get a plate. Also, if you are pulled over you also have to have proof of insurance and you have to complete a form along with your insurance carrier and send it in. I think you have 10 days or your license is suspended.

Chris
 
   / DOT and non comercial traffic #185  
Rumor here is that if your policy gets canceled, they notify the state and they suspend your license. I am not buying it. If I can't pay my insurance and I park my vehicle, I am not in violation of anything.

I don't know what the logic is here on when things expire. I do know that it goes off the first letter/number of your plate. 1-9 for Jan-Sept Then O,N,D for the rest.

We need proof of insurance, residence and property tax receipt to get our plates. To get your inspection, you need insurance and current tags.

Get this one for some Gov. greed. When I moved here from Texas, WV expected me to pay "privilege tax" which is another way of saying "sales tax" on my vehicles, that I had already paid sales tax on in TX. Their logic was that I was buying the vehicle from myself. It was referred to as the "welcome stranger" tax. I drove around for 2+ years with dead Texas plates until they repealed that law.
 
   / DOT and non comercial traffic #186  
In Indiana you have to have proof of insurance to get a plate. Also, if you are pulled over you also have to have proof of insurance and you have to complete a form along with your insurance carrier and send it in. I think you have 10 days or your license is suspended.

Chris

:confused::confused:Chris, can you explain more about that "form", where you get it, when and why, why you have to send it in, etc?
 
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  • Thread Starter
#187  
Well.. got my gooseneck today. picked it up at 4pm.. was raining like cats and dogs.

trailer pulls like a dream.. and feels great on the truck. was easy to set the prodigy controller up for it.

Now I gotta go get a spare tire.

shoulda just bought one fromt he trailer dealer but forgot.. and he's 2-3 cities away.. will have to pull a rim/tire off I guess and head up to the local tire store to get one.

I don't know what the bolt pattern is on mine.. know it's a 16" rim think it's a 235 80 r 16

soundguy
 
   / DOT and non comercial traffic #188  
Well.. got my gooseneck today. picked it up at 4pm.. was raining like cats and dogs.

trailer pulls like a dream.. and feels great on the truck. was easy to set the prodigy controller up for it.

Now I gotta go get a spare tire.

shoulda just bought one fromt he trailer dealer but forgot.. and he's 2-3 cities away.. will have to pull a rim/tire off I guess and head up to the local tire store to get one.

I don't know what the bolt pattern is on mine.. know it's a 16" rim think it's a 235 80 r 16

soundguy

Ummmm...
...Pictures?????

Come on now...you know the drill.:laughing:
 
   / DOT and non comercial traffic #189  
In Texas, the County Tax Assessor-Collector handles the registrations and renewals. Then it's all sent to the Texas DMV. You can renew online in the counties which have elected to participate, or you can renew by mail for an extra dollar, or in person. If in person, some counties have deals with supermarkets, banks, AAA offices, etc. to also handle renewals. New registrations, transfer of titles, and such usually, if no always, require going to the county tax office. You do have to provide proof of liability insurance to register a vehicle or to renew registration.

Same in Florida if you haven't got a policy on record. Our renewals say whether you need to show proof of insurance. Get your plates and drop the policy and you'll get a letter from the state telling you your license will be suspended.
 
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  • Thread Starter
#190  
Ummmm...
...Pictures?????

Come on now...you know the drill.:laughing:

got home after dark last night AND it was raining hard. will try to get some maybee tomorrow if I don't work early.

soundguy
 

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