GREASE... every 10 HOURS?

   / GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #81  
Guys like you should just take it too a dealer and not get your hands dirty.

IMO, that was mean and uncalled for.

Not all of us have a nice clean shop with a level concrete floor to work in. Trying to pull parts and get them perfectly realigned on the larger equipment can be quite challenging when you have to work on uneven dirt or grass, especially if it's something bigger than you can't push or lift by hand.

Ken
 
   / GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #82  
....My statements are made due to my knowledge when dealing with strengths of materials in my engineering field and my current professional experience when dealing with the daily maintenance of ~$7,000,000 worth of Caterpillar equipment in an industrial setting.
My statements are from owning a kubota's L2800... In THEIR words... it was "Economical" model where the suspension seat don't work from the get go, hydraulic return hoses break at <200 hours, PTO cables don't even last <225 hours, pretty sure my ratcheting cams will not see 400 hours (skipping when I'm cultivating and I'm only at 230 hours)...

So I should ignore my loader manual, written by the fine engineers at kubota, that tell me to "...grease fittings every 10 hours of operation..."??? and listen to you :mur: You really think kubota didn't skimp on the pins either??? after all, I got the chexxxx ...economical one...
 
   / GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #83  
So I should ignore my loader manual, written by the fine engineers at kubota, that tell me to "...grease fittings every 10 hours of operation..."??? and listen to you :mur: You really think kubota didn't skimp on the pins either??? after all, I got the chexxxx ...economical one...
I must have missed my own statement where I recommended not to grease every 10 hours. :confused:


Go back and read my post... I replied to the statement that I quoted
I said on post #6... I feel that just driving a gravel road or bumpy field will wear down the pins... I'll still stand by that... Take a couple hundred pounds, put it a few feet out front and bounce it around for 10 (clock) hours ...maybe my land is just not as smooth as what you guys are driving on. :confused3::confused2:
 
   / GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #84  
Sorry for misunderstanding... :)
 
   / GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #85  
I think most any pin/bushing joint that is designed to be greased that is fully greased every 10 hours should last as long as the engine on that machine.
 
   / GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #86  
...an integrated control computer and rpm-compensating meter is what, "FULLER FEATURED"??
Let's get real for a moment. We're talking about tractors, made by a tractor company. Tractors are generally used to perform a function and, generally speaking, to make money.

It is very cute that this site represents a conglomeration of folks that HAPPEN to own tractors, take an interest in them, and spend a few minutes a day sharing stories and concerns. BUT, I would politely offer that we DO NOT (generally speaking) represent the audience for which the tractors were originally designed. I would consider us a 'selected cross-section' that can't necessarilly speak for the greater audience.

There are many, many, many farmers (herders, operators, co-ops, whatevers...) that operate many, many machines on many, many fields for many, many hours that have a sincere interest in tying the operational hours of a machine to the actual RPM the engine is turning. That one feature could be the difference between servicing the machine 4 times a year or 10 times a year to the cost of $3,000 or $10,000. Crucial, I would think, to the appropriate audience.

Based only on my oberservations on this site and by using my own machine, most BX operators don't get 100 hours a year on their machine (as shown on their chincy time-based hour meter). If this were one of the more expensive integrated control computer and rpm-compensating meter, not only would this add $300 per tractor, but it would entice folks to only service their tractors every 3 years (or whenever 100 hours finally rolls over on their expensive hour-meter).

I wouldn't consider this cheap. I would consider this intelligent design, appropriate to the focused audience of the BX line of tractors.

As these discussions always should, this goes back to the OP in that the "10 hour increment" would be 10 hours of use. 2 days, for example, of building a garden for your wife. 6 weeks of turning the compost. 3 weeks of scooping horse poop. I have no idea what relation that has to the reading on the hour-meter, but I would suspect that the individual user would (should) have a pretty good feel for the machine.

Yes, I am oversensitive. I paid a lot of money for my tractor and don't like my purchase to be marginalized.
 
   / GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #87  
Keith, no comment from an oaf in BubbaLand will ever marginalize your tractor. I know you know that. I was just replying to a comment about rpm meters (they are alive and well).

Heck, I fairly flamed the last guy to troll on BX's (remember the caveat emptor Kubota-hating YouTube-posting wheelie boy?).

I also agree most of the users here have such low hours it doesn't matter. Residential tractors don't wear out so much as just die of old age.

I will never use the term "low-end" here again. Ever. I promise. :drink:
 
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   / GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #88  
The manual says to grease "Every 10 hours".
The manual also calls that meter with the "hours" on it the "Hour Meter".
I'm pretty sure (computer is not in the barn) that the meter itself calls whatever it is measuing "Hours" right on its face.

I think we can assume that whether or not the meter is measuring operational hours as per a clock, or RPM hours, that what is meant is to grease every 10 hours on the "Hour Meter". What else could be reasonably meant?
Why would they put a meter called an "Hour Meter" on the tractor, and tell you to use it to gauge greasing times, when what they really wanted you to do was ignore the meter they carefully put there for you and use some other equally innaccurate measurement?

Taking it further, we all know that 10 <whatevers> on the meter does not always equate to a set number of "traveled inches" by a given loader joint, which is what would really need to be measured if trying to accurately determine how much work some grease got.
Which all boils down to, "grease pretty often, using your judgement, and somewhere around 10 hours of usage."
 
   / GREASE... every 10 HOURS?
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#89  
My statements are from owning a kubota's L2800... In THEIR words... it was "Economical" model where the suspension seat don't work from the get go, hydraulic return hoses break at <200 hours, PTO cables don't even last <225 hours, pretty sure my ratcheting cams will not see 400 hours (skipping when I'm cultivating and I'm only at 230 hours)...

So I should ignore my loader manual, written by the fine engineers at kubota, that tell me to "...grease fittings every 10 hours of operation..."??? and listen to you :mur: You really think kubota didn't skimp on the pins either??? after all, I got the chexxxx ...economical one...

OK Guys! Back in Feb. all I was trying to do was get an honest answer on how to maintain my machine! :confused2: I have used tractors most of my life and I thought I asked a simple question. (I never had one with a loader though) I would like to thank you because I have formed an answer from all of the inputs I have read. I can sleep easy knowing that my loader now has the right amount of grease on it! ONE HINT....... I still get grease on me if I lean on it!:laughing:
 
   / GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #90  
:thumbsup::cool2::drink:

:cloud9::tractor:


:laughing:
 

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