outdoor boiler

   / outdoor boiler #11  
Not everyone has that option. But my wife and I do own nearly 9 acres. I'm not sure how much land one would have to own to not worry about neighbors. We have folks around here with hundreds of acres that have great interest in what others do or want to do.


Actually if pending regulations are enacted as they currently read, I will have recourse.

How would enforcing this allow all to enjoy their property, it will allow you to "enjoy" your property but will then render his boiler useless and he wont be able to use his property the way he wants. These things are "green" which is the new thing. If it is a still day with an inversion, it wont matter if he has a 35 foot chimney the smoke will still settle down to the ground. My neighbor and i both burn wood and on a still foggy night we both fill the streets both our properties and down the street with our smoke, but we both use drastically less power at that time which means less coal burned.

What u want is not always what others want.
 
   / outdoor boiler #12  
The 2' above the highest peak of the roof is nothing new. Most installation instructions for furnaces require this . This is to prevent any issues with the drafting of the flue gasses
 
   / outdoor boiler #13  
How would enforcing this allow all to enjoy their property, it will allow you to "enjoy" your property but will then render his boiler useless and he wont be able to use his property the way he wants. These things are "green" which is the new thing. If it is a still day with an inversion, it wont matter if he has a 35 foot chimney the smoke will still settle down to the ground. My neighbor and i both burn wood and on a still foggy night we both fill the streets both our properties and down the street with our smoke, but we both use drastically less power at that time which means less coal burned.

What u want is not always what others want.

Did you happen to read the part where I wrote that restricting OWB use to the actual heating season would address my immediate concerns?

If I have breathing problems and burning eyes while occupying my own home due to my neighbor's actions, he's out of line, not me. I haven't had this problem in any of the other 19 springs & summers I have lived here.
One would probably be better off burning coal than having an OWB stuffed full of green wood all choked down because of no demand for heat.

"Green" is a highly prostituted term and your use of it while describing a neighborhood filled with smoke is a prime example.
 
   / outdoor boiler #14  
Seems a fair amount of "mis-use" comes from the sales and marketing of these OWB saying they will burn green wood. But finally, they are just now getting around to recommending only burning dry wood. To some, that is burning wood the same season (year) it is cut. Not dry then.

Also, the boilers are sold for year-round use (as mentioned for domestic hot water and swimming pools). And sold for one-time loading per day. These uses do not lead to burning wood efficiently, thus the boilers damper down and just smolder away causing stink and smoke.

The bad users are the ones causing the new restrictive laws, and they may be the ones grand-fathered into new laws (unfortunately, as the case may be).

I've burned wood in a wood boiler (inside, not out) for 30 years. I put enough dry wood in to meet the needs of the house, not to stuff it so full it dampers down and smolders. Takes more of my attention, but burns much more efficiently. I've not had a smoke issue with neighbors and all are lower in elevation than I am.
Green wood (not dry) will burn, but most of the energy is used converting the moisture in the wood to steam. I split and stack wood for burning at least one and preferrably three years before burning.
 
   / outdoor boiler #15  
I can not agree with the coal burner comment. I lived in a house with a coal burner all my life. The allergies, the coal dust, the sulpher smell, I do not miss any of it. Honestly, there is no way a coal unit is cleaner then a wood unit. Unfortanately were I grew up they are predominate due to it being a mining are. Nothing like smelling sulpher on your block from all the coal burners going.:( There is a better way to take care of the issue. That is to educate the people to what they are doing wrong and help them correct the issue. If that means to make sure they know not to burn green wood then that is what they should be educated on. Telling people they can not have it, or can only burn it in season is not the solution.
 
   / outdoor boiler #16  
Wood smoke is not is not harmful, well unless you huffing pure smoke or got a tube of it flowing direcly into your house. Some may think it stinks but i like the smell. Now if there burning treated plastic or other stuff thats diferent. Think of those who strike matches to cover up a smell, once the sulfer smell leaves thats wood smoke on there.

As far as restricting them to colder weather, what does that mean the first of sept, Oct?? My grandmother would have a fire (when i lived with her after college) going when i got home from work in the early fall or summer when it was 80 degres outside. This im sure would be out of those time periods but at her age and her comfort level was what she wanted. I did not say anything it was her house, i just shut my door and opened my window. Those folks who bought those things for use as a water heater did so to get rid of their power sucking parasitic electric or gas water heaters ( i wish i had one) My last house i figured i spent anywhere from $30-50/month just heating water. They bought them to cut that out now you want to tell them that is not good for you. I see your point but do you see theres.
 
   / outdoor boiler #17  
Every stick of wood I burn is a savings of Propane that benefits someone else, be it but a drop in the ocean.
I burn wood because I like the heat, like the savings to me, and like the exercise, but especially like the fact that I use it as an excuse to buy the tractor I like to pull in the logs, etc. :D
 
   / outdoor boiler #18  
Wood smoke is not is not harmful, well unless you huffing pure smoke or got a tube of it flowing direcly into your house. Some may think it stinks but i like the smell.

There is a lot of scientific research that says otherwise.

In many parts of the world, where heating is from an indoor fire, air inside is more polluted than air outside, and there is serious reduction of life spans.
 
   / outdoor boiler #19  
"scientists" can be quoted as saying anything about everything. They must be a dime a dozen, and can easily be hired to substantiate whatever is needed at the time.
Disappointing to me, to say the least.
 
   / outdoor boiler #20  
Wood smoke is not is not harmful, well unless you huffing pure smoke or got a tube of it flowing direcly into your house. Some may think it stinks but i like the smell.

There is a lot of scientific research that says otherwise.

In many parts of the world, where heating is from an indoor fire, air inside is more polluted than air outside, and there is serious reduction of life spans.

I have read that too. I think it is especially true where people cook indoors over an open wood or charcoal fire. This is not uncommon in rural areas of developing countries.

I don't know why it is difficult to believe wood smoke is harmful. Grilling over wood deposits carcinogens on your steak :) What happens when you inhale wood smoke? You cough, your body knows it needs to clear it out of your lungs. I thought this was common sense.
Dave.
 

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