I would like a 9mm concealable pistol, what to consider?

   / I would like a 9mm concealable pistol, what to consider? #51  
I can crush an aluminum can with my fist! No limp wrist here even if I am only 100 miles away from SF.

I used to be able to do that, but about two months ago my right arm started to hurt and then it started to hurt a lot.

Dr. gave me a cortisone shot, but the arm & hand are now very weak.

I haven't tried shooting a semi-auto, but I know I can still shoot a revolver with no worries.

My point is that limp wrist can come on involuntarily.
 
   / I would like a 9mm concealable pistol, what to consider? #52  
What is up with all this limp wrist talk! If I had a limp wrist, I would rather shoot my Colt 45 semi-auto than my Colt .357 mag revolver. HA!
 
   / I would like a 9mm concealable pistol, what to consider? #53  
I used to be able to do that, but about two months ago my right arm started to hurt and then it started to hurt a lot.

Dr. gave me a cortisone shot, but the arm & hand are now very weak.

I haven't tried shooting a semi-auto, but I know I can still shoot a revolver with no worries.

My point is that limp wrist can come on involuntarily.

Dave,
This is the point of getting older...
Got news recently and I am getting older myself...

Well time to go take the teeth out and go to bed...


J
 
   / I would like a 9mm concealable pistol, what to consider? #54  
Consider a Kel Tec PF9 with an Armalaser RSS laser sight.

Made in USA. About $500 for the package, tax included, or less.

Extremely small and light, I pocket carry daily, all day, everywhere, have CHL. I never feel it in my pocket, it fits all slacks/jeans,pants that I owned and have bought. No need to change wardrobe.

When looking to purchase, I put an extreme premium on pocket carry. If it isn't with you, it's no good. And 9mm, IMHO, was lightest caliber with acceptable stopping power that I would accept. It's the lightest, smallest 9mm on the market

Never failed to fire, even after being in my dirty pocket...suppose it could, but hasn't happened yet. Warranty is lifetime.... amazing!

That said, everybody has their own particular needs and ideas...many of which have already been expressed. The OP should decide how he's willing to carry, how much weight, acceptable wardrobe changes, etc.
 
   / I would like a 9mm concealable pistol, what to consider? #55  
I can crush an aluminum can with my fist! No limp wrist here even if I am only 100 miles away from SF.

Wasn't meant to be a criticism of you...I don't even know you.
Glocks, with their plastic frames, are just more susceptable to misfeeds if not held firmly...just a fact about Glocks...
 
   / I would like a 9mm concealable pistol, what to consider?
  • Thread Starter
#56  
Ahhh, but I know you, you know with that hat and stuff... :laughing:

I appreciate all the advice.


Wasn't meant to be a criticism of you...I don't even know you.
Glocks, with their plastic frames, are just more susceptable to misfeeds if not held firmly...just a fact about Glocks...
 
   / I would like a 9mm concealable pistol, what to consider? #57  
My two cents is that the biggest threat in the woods is critters with two feet and smaller four footed critters. Getting bit by a bear or cat is possible but not very likely.

If hiking one has to compromise regarding weight. If one wants the 500 S&W hand cannon to take out The Griz then something else is going to get left at home or you get to carry more weight. And if the weapon is uncomfortable to carry and gets left at home it is useless.

I don't like firearms that require a trigger pull to disassemble. A trigger should do one thing and one thing only which is to make gun go bang. So I don't like Glocks. But I do like Glocks because they are one of the few that still make a 10mm. :D And Glocks do have a great trigger pull. There are some 1911 pistols in 10mm.

A 10mm loaded to its potential gets into the low end of the 44 Mag power levels. A 10mm can make loud booms. :laughing: Or an FBI Light load can be used for more reasonable shooting. The 10mm FBI Light load turned into the 40. 10mm ammo is expensive but if one had to worry about big critters but did not want to carry the bigger hand cannons it would be a good choice.

Wheel guns do jam. Not often but when they do jam they jam bad. Real bad. Seen it happen twice and it was bad ammo. Having to try to unjam a revolver while the cylinder is REAL hot from the energy created from a bullet jammed between the cylinder and the barrel is a bit dicey. When I saw this happen I backed off the firing line enough so that the range officer's body was between me and the revolver that was cooking five other rounds in the cylinder. :eek: It happened twice. :eek: New ammo was supplied and the problem went away. It was practice ammo. If it had happened with duty ammo in a fire fight the officer would have been dead since it took a few minutes to get the weapon unjammed. I really think the rounds would have started to cook off if 357s had been fired instead of 38s.

An auto loader can be unjammed pretty quickly with minimal training.

The 357 is good since you can shoot cheap 38's. A 10mm revolver is also good since it can be loaded into the lower 44 mag level but still shoot 40's.

A 9mm is adequate but 10mm/40 or 45 is my preference but all should work for two legged and smaller four legged critters.

The M&P 45 is VERY nice. For years I carried a 4506 which is a big heavy SS pistol. The M&P 45 I was issued is much smaller and lighter that the 4506. I only have a few hundred rounds fired so far and it is still breaking in with the accuracy improving with use. Very impressed. I had some excellent scores with the pistol. Daytime was some of the best I had shot and I did not get off all the rounds since I was going slow. Night time I got off even less rounds because I was having trouble seeing the front sights. The sights are Tritium but they had been covered up a bit by the exhaust of earlier dirtier practice rounds. But my scores where still some of the best I have ever shot.

It has a Glock like trigger in that the trigger pull is the same from round to round. No 12 pound double action pull followed by a 4 pound pull. I think it is rated at 6 pounds.

It also has a loaded chamber indicator which is nice. You also don't have to pull the trigger to clean the weapon. The pistol comes with three grips to support a range of hand sizes.

I would recommend you look at the M&P family of pistols.

Though for some strange reason I want a 460 S&W hand cannon. I have NO need for that thing but I want it. I also like the 10mm revolvers but again no real need.

Good Luck with making a decision!:D
Dan
 
   / I would like a 9mm concealable pistol, what to consider? #58  
Just to throw my 2 cents in here! I have two Glocks, a 19 and a 20. I have large hands with long fingers. With the 19 I use magazines with plus 2 extensions to get a better grip. With the model 20 10mm I placed a Hogue overwrap on the grip. That has made it very comfortable to hold and shoot.

Loaded the 20 is quite a bit of gun.

My fun guns are Ruger Blackhawks, an old 3 screw in 357 magnum and a new model in 38-40/10mm.

Vernon
 
   / I would like a 9mm concealable pistol, what to consider? #59  
Since you have large hands, you may find that some of the Kahr and Keltec models are just plain uncomfortable to shoot. Since your wife is a cop, I expect there'll be a lot of "fun" time at the range, so sticking with a 9mm will keep enough dough in the wallet to afford dinner afterward.:D

Glock and Sig makes good carry-sized weapons, though I have a favorite of my own... My hand's aren't particularly large, but they're kind of broad. A sub-compact isn't a good option. (except for 1 I'll mention)

A CZ75 Compact (safety model) or the PCR (decocker model) are excellent choices. Good size frame and concealable.
CZ-USA -> CZ 75 D PCR COMPACT

My personal every-day-carry is a CZ clone by EAA: (Known for their excellent trigger mechanism)
It's an EAA Witness P Carry. The "carry" size by EAA has a "compact" slide, but a full size frame. There's not as many holsters listed for them, but the older model I have fits nicely in a CZ75 Compact holster. (These have safeties but no decocker.)
EAAcorp.com - European American Armory Inc. - Homepage

Finally, my other favorite, a Bersa Thunder Ultra Compact 9mm with 13 round capacity. Like the EAA, it's not a "sexy" gun that's going to get a lot of press, but they're super-accurate and very concealable. (These have decocker and a safety.)

If I were going to buy a gun today, it'd likely be a Witness P Carry in 10mm, or a Bersa UC Pro 9. My hand size and preference to carry "cocked and locked" may make my taste in guns different from yours.
 
   / I would like a 9mm concealable pistol, what to consider? #60  
Speaking of the OP (RaT)...one thing that helps is a Hogue Handall (I think that's what it's called) for the grip. I have one on my Glock 19. It provides for an outstanding grip on the gun. Good price too...about 10 bucks. I recommend them 100%, especially for an older gun like a series 1 or 2 Glock (my 17 is a Series 1...the 19 is a Series 2)

Roy, thanks for the info on the Hogue Handall. I have a 1st generation Glock 23, and I ordered the Handall today. All the reviews I looked at rated it very highly, especially for someone with bigger hands like myself... should be here Friday... looking forward to trying it.
 

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