HST vs. Gear Trans

[k0ua]

"Gear" we go again. on 4th tractor, 2 gear, 2 hydro. Current tractor is hydro. I do a lot of loader work, and hydro is best, no question. Gear is ok for mowing/plowing. Your left leg will never get those muscles built up with hydro.:laughing: Now for every guy like me that thinks hydro is best is a guy that thinks gear is best. But if they have ever worked up next to a building or tried to do precision loader work, they would think hydro was best too.
Get which ever one that "floats your boat"
James K0UA

 

[Storm56]

Hydros certainly have their place and a strong following here. For me, give me a synchromesh shuttle and I am happy, make it a powershift sync-shuttle and I am in heaven!

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

"Gear" we go again. on 4th tractor, 2 gear, 2 hydro. Current tractor is hydro. I do a lot of loader work, and hydro is best, no question. Gear is ok for mowing/plowing. Your left leg will never get those muscles built up with hydro.:laughing: Now for every guy like me that thinks hydro is best is a guy that thinks gear is best. But if they have ever worked up next to a building or tried to do precision loader work, they would think hydro was best too.
Get which ever one that "floats your boat"
James K0UA

Nope, not so. Every time this comes up every two or three months, the hydro is picked as the preferred transmission for other than straight forward motion. I've bought eleven and all have been hydro.
I believe any tractor dealer can give you the stastics of how many people buy a hydro versus how many buy a gear and I believe the hydro will be over 80% sold versus 20% or less gear and a lot of those geared ones are sold to the person hunting a cheaper price and not really a preference issue. I believe the sales figures is where the proof is.

 

[PILOON]

Well I have a gear (non syncro) and do lots of loader work.
Don't bother me at all.
However I would like PS and am planning to install one. (have all parts now= next project)

 

[Agrantina]

My two cents-I have the GST model and like it--but after using geared tractors a lot I can see the want in the HST and with a FEL i really see the GOOD in an HST. I cut and disk and rotary till mostly and dont have a FEL so for the money I got the GST. YES i got it at a deal cuz it sat there and folks including me walked past it looking at the HST.. But the money difference turned my head and I bought it. Actually the GST and DT has a few more HP at the PTO than the HST So look at what you need it for and buy what you will use 80% of the time... I did-- Kinda like Ford Chevy-- Remmington or Winchester- eveyones got there own thoughts. By the way I own a Chevy:confused2:

AndyG

 

[jlsmith]

Nope, not so. Every time this comes up every two or three months, the hydro is picked as the preferred transmission for other than straight forward motion. I've bought eleven and all have been hydro.
I believe any tractor dealer can give you the stastics of how many people buy a hydro versus how many buy a gear and I believe the hydro will be over 80% sold versus 20% or less gear and a lot of those geared ones are sold to the person hunting a cheaper price and not really a preference issue. I believe the sales figures is where the proof is.

Sorry but I have to disagree. I'm a dealer and over the last 5 years I've only sold about 10 hst the rest were all gear and yea I've sold a lot of scut and cut tractors. But it is ones prefrence. I myself do not like the hst but that's just me.

 

[_RaT_]

GEAR vs. HST.

Round 189. :laughing:

Try 21,890:laughing:

 

[BigD23]

I'm deff a HST fan.

Don

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

"Gear" we go again. on 4th tractor, 2 gear, 2 hydro. Current tractor is hydro. I do a lot of loader work, and hydro is best, no question. Gear is ok for mowing/plowing. Your left leg will never get those muscles built up with hydro.:laughing: Now for every guy like me that thinks hydro is best is a guy that thinks gear is best. But if they have ever worked up next to a building or tried to do precision loader work, they would think hydro was best too.
Get which ever one that "floats your boat"
James K0UA

Nope, not so. Every time this comes up every two or three months, the hydro is picked as the preferred transmission for other than straight forward motion. I've bought eleven and all have been hydro.
I believe any tractor dealer can give you the stastics of how many people buy a hydro versus how many buy a gear and I believe the hydro will be over 80% sold versus 20% or less gear and a lot of those geared ones are sold to the person hunting a cheaper price and not really a preference issue. I believe the sales figures is where the proof is.

Sorry but I have to disagree. I'm a dealer and over the last 5 years I've only sold about 10 hst the rest were all gear and yea I've sold a lot of scut and cut tractors. But it is ones prefrence. I myself do not like the hst but that's just me.

Do you think it may be Massey Ferguson buyers buy geared tractors and Kubota buyers buy HST? Or could it be a Texas thing? I believe Kubota dealers will back up my figures. If I were a Dealer, I'd also sell more of what I prefer. I would have such a sense of conviction that what I prefer is the best choice that I believe I could always convince that undecided customer to go "my way".

 

[Ken45101]

I have both.

One issue with a geared transmission for loader work is that the loader operates slowly at idle. You have to rev the engine to load or dump (or be very patient), while holding the clutch in. Also, steering is harder at low rpms.

I do feel that the HST robs power from the smaller units.

Also for mowing, with a geared transmission, you have to slow down the engine (and pto rpms) for close maneuvering. Straight out in the field, it doesn't make a difference.

Ken
HST: B21 TLB, B2710, JD skid steer
geared: M5040 with loader, M9540