pulverizer/Verticutter/Power Rake/Seeder

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RonR

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Ok, time to get the creative minds flowing here folks!

After searching for the best tool for what I want, I've almost decided I will build my own. Mostly this is due to the cost to purchase what I would like, and the lack of what I think would be all the features I want.

I want the benefits of the following:
Fescue seed planting & overseeding. Many high quality tools here: Super Turf Renovator, Ferguson Yardmaster, and others that utilize a vertical cutter. Downside of all is cost. Turf renovator's spikes appear to break off when they contact stuff, and in our clay, it would likely just poke holes in the dirt, rather than work it up.

Power rake to prep the ground. Love the Woods Power Rake and similar, but wow, the cost. And with only 22 HP, I'm on the way low side to properly handle them and currently lack the remote hydraulics.

Pulverizer, again to prep the soil. Like the looks of many of them, and could add a seed box to several to make it a seeder.

Here's what I'm planning. Feel free to add comments and suggestions. This will not be a quick project for me, but I promise to post pics when I get it going. Around here, many people overseed their lawns almost yearly, so I can keep it busy once I build it.

So, here's what it will look like:

Will be 5ft wide, with ability to angle 15* left or right as a power rake. With the angle, it will be more aggressive in the soil.

Will be PTO driven, with a rototiller type gearbox, including a slip clutch.

Will have seed boxes, most likely three 24inch drop seeder type rigged to be powered from a trailing roller.

Main roller will be from a round baler, to which I'll weld either 5/8 round shaft 1.5" long, OR 5/16 x 1.5" abrasive resistant flat. I'm concerned about the wear on these, and don't want to have to either build them up with hardsurfacing or have to rebuild the roller in a year or two. The flat would also make the unit work best as a verticutter I think, so I wouldn't destroy existing lawn when I wanted to overseed.

The main roller itself will keep the unit from digging too deeply.

The rear roller will be smooth or might have bars welded lengthwise on it for traction and just to pack seeds down. The rear roller could be easily detachable if I just want to power rake.

OK guys, what am I missing? See any fatal flaws or things I could improve on?

I've searched this forum and have seen pulverizers that folks have built, but not seen anything like this........

THANKS.

Ron
 
   / pulverizer/Verticutter/Power Rake/Seeder #2  
I'm really interested in seeing what u come up with on this. I have a Ryan 3pt aerator, and use it for overseeding, But when the soil is hard, it doesn't work.
I have rented a Bobcat power rake for my Power Trac 1850, and after using it..look hard at the Power Trac PR...search for it here in th Power Trac forum..it has rear whaeels and front fork wheels and a larger drum to dig....looks like it would work better, ie the rear wheels act as gauge wheels.

Now back to the overseeder. I'm looking at an Aeravaor..two big pluses are it will chew up rock hard soil...so if no rain, ole Billy can still go out and aerate, at least open up the soil and pray for RAIN. Secondly it trails behind the tractor, so u can turn, and not lift , lift, lift to get around a lawn. It also can be bought as an overseeder with more tines and a seed box or a seed box (12v drive I think ) can be added.

http://www.1stproducts.com/2005/index.php

Also a new comer is a unit made by earth & turf which is more like a verticutter.

http://www.earthandturf.com/linearaerator.htm

I will probably always just rent a power rake...or possibly buy the PT moedl..its under 4,000.00 but the seedavator is around $6,000.00 if my memory serves me correctly. I don't know th price of the linear aerator by E&T, but its probably pricey too.

To sum it all up... I think a unit that could aerate (possibly by fracture core or linear cutting) that chews up hard soil, but doesn't disturb existing grass would be the ticket. And a seed box possibly 12v drive (so u could aerate with a load, but not seed until u hit thin areas) would be cool too.

OK, lets build this thing.
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Thanks for the replies and links. I had seen one of those online.

The vibrating spikes looks like it would be high maintenance to me, but I might be wrong. And in our hard clay, I'm not sure they would penetrate, but sit on top and vibrate.

If I had to have something quickly, I'd buy a rototiller with used up tines, then replace the tines or shaft with a verticutter type rotor, similar to the Linear Aerator. I like the 3.5" spacing. I don't think I need to go 3" deep for anything I do. If I got 1-2", I'd be happy. I suppose the right way to build it would be to have it go 3-4" deep, then allow gage wheels or skid shoes to control the depth. Sure wouldn't want to have to replace the rotor every year!

The flexible turning would be nice, but I'm sure you pay a LOT for that feature. I can stop, raise, turn, for what I save.

Now if I could just find a well used tiller locally for cheap..........

I like the idea of a 12V seed drive. Should be easy to fab and reliable...........

If you get started on this first, be sure to post pics.

ron
 
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I'd seriously consider a reverse rotating tiller. Rarely when I use my tiller, I push it backwards...works much better.
 
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Found this pic of a used Land Pride Overseeder. It's probably the closest to what I would like, but WOW, are they EXPENSIVE........ New, I think they are about $5K!

I'm likely to start on the rotor similar to this pic and either build a tiller frame to house it, or find a used tiller to stick it in.............

More ideas gladly welcomed.

ron
 

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   / pulverizer/Verticutter/Power Rake/Seeder #6  
Take a look at Beefco and Kasco units before you stop the research phase of your plans. They offer units that are simular to what you intend.

I have a series of tools that will accomplish the same end results. By keeping them as seperate tools, they're far more versitile. (Tiller, pulverizer, aerifier, drop seeder/roller/aerifier combo)
 
   / pulverizer/Verticutter/Power Rake/Seeder #7  
Hi RonR

How did you get on with this project?

Im looking to build something similar.

Regards

Sip
 
   / pulverizer/Verticutter/Power Rake/Seeder #8  
I have considered these seeders but it seems the fescue is slow to fill in the spaces. Am I missing something here? It appears to drop seeds spaced about 6 to 8 inches apart making strips of grass.

On new lawns I till and smooth the seedbed and broadcast the seed, followed by a harrow to cover and a final pass with a roller.
 
   / pulverizer/Verticutter/Power Rake/Seeder #9  
The brand of secondary seeder I was around is made by a golf and turf company called Turfco in Blaine MN.

Again it is NOT a primary seeder, but a secondary seeder. It worked very good, and they claim germination rate is EXTREMELY good.

They should be on the web somewhere.
Good luck
Wyo
 
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Google Blec Its a UK based company that makes and sells all types of landscaping equipment. THey have a set up similar to what your building. They have tons of great looking implements.
 

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