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Obed, Merry Christmas.

great time following this thread, count me as another that will miss checking in to see the progress, when you are done. It was interesting to me to see the different building technics/regulations thru out the country.

Easy fix for the garage door openers...a sharpie and an "R" & "L"...just a thought.

Rick
 
   / At Home In The Woods #2,502  
I guess that is one good thing about living in an RV for so many years... you won't have all the boxes of 'stuff' in the garage for the first couple of years!


As for the garage door openers you will get used to which one opens which door pretty fast. In the meantime you could put a little sticker on the mostly used door opener or use stickers to label them according to what their position is East vs. West or North vs. South etc.
 
   / At Home In The Woods #2,503  
congrats Obed. Looks like you are just about on the homestretch. I am sure you and your family will sigh a big relief when moving in January. :thumbsup:
 
   / At Home In The Woods #2,504  
Congratulations on being almost ready to move in. It will be a shock having so much space after living in the camper for so long.
I looked at the photo of you standing in the empty trailer and I knew how you felt. Not too long ago I emptied my trailer of all the old shingles from my shop roof. Because of leaving unexpectedly for a project a couple of days after stripping the roof it all sat on the trailer for a couple of weeks during which time it rained, then snowed and froze. Took most of the morning to empty the trailer of maybe half of what you had on yours.
 
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OK, I know gov. officials can be and are sometimes corrupt. But, this little idea of the inspectors being "fee grabbers" get's under my skin. I've been a working on houses in middle TN for over 25 years as a sub. Mostly trimming, but also framing, building decks and porches, and remodeling. I'm usually on the job from somewhere in the middle up to the very end at closing. I've NEVER seen this. I think your sub who said this is full of hooey!

IF a sub does his job correctly, there will be no issues with the inspectors. Keep in mind codes are usually the minimum. Subs who get a pee pee attitude toward the inspectors are usually the ones who want to cut corners and start to say things like inspectors are just fee grabbers ("they're out to get me", "everybody hates me", :D ).

Obed, you and your wife have a very nice home and have done a great job of overseeing it (I like working for people like you guys). You are an honorable man and have honorable intentions and common sense. Not all who build houses are like you. Those inspectors could tell you horror stories.

For instance. Say the inspector lets Joe Blow by with blocking off his back door that is five feet off the ground. Soon as Joe moves in he removes the barricade, his child falls out the door and breaks it's neck. Guess who's getting sued? Or, does not remove the barricade, house catches fire and the child dies. Joe says only if he could have gotten out that door. Guess who's getting sued? You get the idea.
 
   / At Home In The Woods #2,506  
Inspectors around here are basically bulletproof. They have immunity from any liability by state laws (WI and MN). Even if it truly is their screw up (missing/ignoring an obviously dangerous situation), they are still not liable. Not sure how on earth that is possible, but I have seen it discussed many times. It extends to the town/city they work with too. Not sure if that is typical throughout the country or not, but I suspect it is pretty common.
 
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OK, I know gov. officials can be and are sometimes corrupt. But, this little idea of the inspectors being "fee grabbers" get's under my skin. I've been a working on houses in middle TN for over 25 years as a sub. Mostly trimming, but also framing, building decks and porches, and remodeling. I'm usually on the job from somewhere in the middle up to the very end at closing. I've NEVER seen this. I think your sub who said this is full of hooey!

IF a sub does his job correctly, there will be no issues with the inspectors. Keep in mind codes are usually the minimum. Subs who get a pee pee attitude toward the inspectors are usually the ones who want to cut corners and start to say things like inspectors are just fee grabbers ("they're out to get me", "everybody hates me", :D ).

Obed, you and your wife have a very nice home and have done a great job of overseeing it (I like working for people like you guys). You are an honorable man and have honorable intentions and common sense. Not all who build houses are like you. Those inspectors could tell you horror stories.

For instance. Say the inspector lets Joe Blow by with blocking off his back door that is five feet off the ground. Soon as Joe moves in he removes the barricade, his child falls out the door and breaks it's neck. Guess who's getting sued? Or, does not remove the barricade, house catches fire and the child dies. Joe says only if he could have gotten out that door. Guess who's getting sued? You get the idea.

Shane - I agree with you about inspectors at least the ones in our county..When I built our house as my own GC..I got along fine with all of the inspectors and appreciated their help..I had a couple of subs that absolutely hated the inspectors and thought them to be the enemy...I watched those subs extra close...We got our CO with no problem...The few times the inspectors found a problem..the subs I mentioned would claim the changes were not needed that the inspector was being picky...I told them to make the changes and all was fine. There was never any re-inspection fee involved and no sign that any of the inspectors were looking for any pay off..That was just my experience.
 
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OK, I know gov. officials can be and are sometimes corrupt. But, this little idea of the inspectors being "fee grabbers" get's under my skin. I've been a working on houses in middle TN for over 25 years as a sub. Mostly trimming, but also framing, building decks and porches, and remodeling. I'm usually on the job from somewhere in the middle up to the very end at closing. I've NEVER seen this. I think your sub who said this is full of hooey!
Shane, I think you're right on. If I had any issue with the inspectors, it would be that some of them here haven't been strict enough.

For example, when the original framer/construction manager built our interior walls without overlapping the top plates, a clear violation in the code book our county uses, I asked the inspector about them. She said that while she preferred that the top plates overlapped, she was not going to require the framer to fix them. I really wanted her to fail the framing rough-in in order to help me when I would have to confront the framer. But the inspector in that case was of zero assistance to me, the homeowner who wanted to build his house up to the code standards. There were some other framing issues that were more serious that she also allowed, even after I brought them to her attention.

The same lady is the one who inspected our house yesterday for our certificate of occupancy. She might have been in the house 15 minutes at most. She looked at our front porch, spent about 2 minutes walking through our basement, talked to us about her Christmas shopping woes, talked to me about her issues with the front porch and then left. She did not look in any of the bedrooms, any of the baths, the laundry room, or the office. The plumber could have violated code a hundred different ways and she would have never known, nor did she care.

If the inspectors are going to allow extremely poor building practices and intentionally ignore serious code violations, then what purpose are they serving other than to bring revenue in to the county/state in the form of fees and taxes? When you look at the government incentives to bring in revenue by giving speeding tickets, parking tickets, and putting up red light cameras, I don't think it is a far stretch to see governments trying to shore up revenues in the form of permits, inspection fees, and re-inspection fees, especially in a slow construction economy. Let's face it, all you need to do is find one code violation in each house and you have just doubled the inspection fee revenue for the county.

Based on the county inpections we have had, my conclusion is that the building permittting and inpection process is primarilly motivated by being a source of revenue for the local government here. The permit ensures a government official can come inside your house and evaluate your house for property tax purposes. Without the permitting process, the government officials could not enter your house because of the U.S. Constitution's Bill of Rights ammendments regarding improper search and seizure.

On the other hand, the state electrical inspector seemed very conscientious and intent on performing a good inspection. I'll give details about his inspection shortly. I have to say that I really appreciated the obvious effort he made to ensure our electrical work was done safely.

Shane - I agree with you about inspectors at least the ones in our county..When I built our house as my own GC..I got along fine with all of the inspectors and appreciated their help..I had a couple of subs that absolutely hated the inspectors and thought them to be the enemy...I watched those subs extra close...We got our CO with no problem...The few times the inspectors found a problem..the subs I mentioned would claim the changes were not needed that the inspector was being picky...I told them to make the changes and all was fine. There was never any re-inspection fee involved and no sign that any of the inspectors were looking for any pay off..That was just my experience.
I did not take it that the term "fee grabber" implied inspectors were trying to get payoffs but rather that the inspectors are being used by the government as a source of income.

Just my opinion.

Obed
 
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Today I added dirt around the front porch to better meet the 30" maximum porch height requirement. I used the backhoe to remove dirt from a spot that is too high and deposited the dirt beside the porch. Certainly I hope the extra dirt will satisfy the inspector. I will eventually fine tune the grading in this area to be able to mow the area with a riding mower. But for now I hope it's good enough to get us into the house.
 

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Electrical Inspection
We had our electrical inspection today. The inspector found some things that need changing. We have 30 days to make the changes and get another inspection.

The outside HVAC unit had romex wire running through a conduit to supply power to the unit. Romex is not allowed inside the conduit. It must be replaced with UF wire.

We have keyless incandescent light fixtures in two bedroom closets; they are not allowed. The fixtures must have globes that completely cover the light bulb.

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The mechanical room in the basement had an outlet that must be replaced with a GFCI outlet.

The laundry room has an outlet within 6 feet of the sink that must be replaced with a GFCI outlet.

The copper water pipes must be electrically bonded to the ground terminals in both electrical panels in the basement.

Our electrician said he would send his workers out Tuesday to make the changes. We will need to buy two light fixtures for the closets beforehand.
 

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