Ok whats wrong with this pic

[MarkV]

This case has now clearly turned into a veiled threat situation. I wouldn't deal with this guy any longer. He's shown the color of his stripes and deserves no consideration whatsoever. I wouldn't even insult the MF rep's intelligence with this case. Put his tractor back together and give him 24 hrs. to remove it from the premises or pay storage charges. The guy has no case legally or factually and knows it, hence all the threats. Kick this POS situation down the road.

I agree Mike. His warranty is expired, end of story. I had to replace my front tires and didn't expect Kubota to do it. I was out of warranty. The fact that he is implying threats of retaliation, well, I don't see a reason to try and help him. He is a user, not a repeat customer.

I am a bit taken back by those on the forum that feel MF should stand up and fix this out of warranty problem? Why? Is that what you expect when you purchase a tractor? Life long repairs for free.

MarkV

 

[blueriver]

I am a bit taken back by those on the forum that feel MF should stand up and fix this out of warranty problem? Why? Is that what you expect when you purchase a tractor? Life long repairs for free.

MarkV

I agree ...

 

[KWentling]

I am a bit taken back by those on the forum that feel MF should stand up and fix this out of warranty problem? Why? Is that what you expect when you purchase a tractor? Life long repairs for free.

Nope. Don't expect that at all.
Actually, I think this IS a design flaw. If it was my tractor, I would hope that MF would help out. All manufacturers have "fix as fail" programs or other help when problems out of the ordinary crop up that shouldn't. What makes it a little grey to me is the recommendation to remove the plug as part of maintenance. The good thing about having a plug is you can see if you have a rear main seal or something leaking, as it will be obvious because it will collect there. The bad thing is what we see in the pictures. Any moisture that is trapped in there can't get out. Obviously the owner has neglected the tractor. He has hurt any chance that he might have had by not being honest and making threats. If I were the MF rep or the dealer, I wouldn't be inclined to help him just for that reason.

Kim

 

[Mike Costello]

Is it a design flaw or is this a case of negligence on the part of the owner. That tractor had to have gotten into a lot of water to cause all that the pictures show. If that was the case, it seems to me a responsible tractor owner would have immediately taken action in order to prevent damage. That action includes reading the owners's manual and contacting the dealer for advice and help if necessary. Even talking the situation over with a veteran tractor owner probably would have helped. In this case, simply opening the drain plug in a timely manner may haved saved the day. Unfortunately, it appears nothing was done and we now see the results.
Tractor ownership involves more than just starting it and driving around. The key word here is responsibility and it sure looks like it was sorely lacking in this situation.

 

[sixdogs]

I am a bit taken back by those on the forum that feel MF should stand up and fix this out of warranty problem? Why? Is that what you expect when you purchase a tractor? Life long repairs for free.

Nope. Don't expect that at all.
Actually, I think this IS a design flaw. If it was my tractor, I would hope that MF would help out. All manufacturers have "fix as fail" programs or other help when problems out of the ordinary crop up that shouldn't. What makes it a little grey to me is the recommendation to remove the plug as part of maintenance. The good thing about having a plug is you can see if you have a rear main seal or something leaking, as it will be obvious because it will collect there. The bad thing is what we see in the pictures. Any moisture that is trapped in there can't get out. Obviously the owner has neglected the tractor. He has hurt any chance that he might have had by not being honest and making threats. If I were the MF rep or the dealer, I wouldn't be inclined to help him just for that reason.

Kim

You know, a little rust in the bell housing is no big deal. Not stepping on the clutch pedal or not using the tractor is why the clutch rusted together. It takes a number of months of not using the tractor for this to happen. We all know this.
Yet the guy says he uses the tractor every day. So that's a lie and that's the issuue. If he did what he said he did we wouldn't have this thread because there would be no problem. To complicate things the guy threatens what appears to be a great dealer and nice guy. And we are way out of warranty.
Cam't wait for the updates tomorrow. I'm going with 80-20. The company rep explains the meaning of life but offers to pay 20% just to be nice. Dealer pays zero. Client threatens but is never heard or seen again.

 

[aczlan]

Client threatens but is never heard or seen again.

Would that be a bad ending (as long as they go quietly)?

Aaron Z

 

[jlsmith]

That's the one thing I love about this site, you get everybodys opinion and thoughts. Some have suggested design flaw but I don't think this to be the case. I have sold close to 100 of this units and so have the dealers around me that I have talked to and this is the first clutch prob of this nature any of the other dealers have heard of, not saying it could be a fluke chance that this did happen. I would like to hear from some of the other brand tractor owners and see if they have plugs or cotter keys in their bell housing. (Scut and cut's only I know what the bigger tractors have.
Jeremy

 

[kjung17]

I've been into more than a few clutches and I can't recall one that did not have a drain hole and cotter key dongle in the housing. I can just picture this tractor sitting under a shade tree. Up comes the sun, bathing this beauty in morning light. The sun travels across the sky. About 11:00am our little peach moves into the shade. That bell housing acts like a terrarium. It wouldn't take long to seize a clutch. Looking forward to the conclusion of this cliffhanger.

 

[Scotty370]

I'm thinking this is like :

YouTube - Jeopardy! Think Music, 1997

:laughing::thumbsup:

I'm waiting for the MF decision on Monday!

 

[jimmysisson]

The no-drain is why I suggested drill-and-cotter-pin the plug itself. If that works, good. If MF objects, you can install a solid plug. I agree with others this was not submerged but subject to condensation and lack of use. The semi-sealed housing just made that worse. As with all, interested in what the new day brings.
Jim