KIOTI DK 45 SE HST Stopped while running - won't re-start

   / KIOTI DK 45 SE HST Stopped while running - won't re-start #61  
i just spent about an hour looking all over my new DK45SE HST unit, and i could not find a single bundle of wire that wasn't strapped or supported so as not to touch the block. id sure like to know where your wires burnt thru, so i could check that area on my unit...to see if it truly was just a bad fluke....or a monday tractor. please keep us abreast. and im glad your tractor is working again.
 
   / KIOTI DK 45 SE HST Stopped while running - won't re-start #62  
Yep, I hope Bob can get that information so I check my wiring harness too.
 
   / KIOTI DK 45 SE HST Stopped while running - won't re-start #63  
Bob, The responses that others are sending you are great. Here are some basics just in case you are not familiar with the testing process. First of all, take off your watch and rings if you are wearing any. 12 volts wont be enough to cause current to flow through you but it will force plenty of current through a metal object and heat it up and will provide a nasty burn. Use the ohms function to check continuity to make sure there are no breaks (opens) in the wire or whatever you are testing. The other main check is voltage, use the DC volts function and set the range switch higher than the present voltage being tested for. For example, to verify voltage present (12 volts) set the switch for at least twice that to be safe. A full battery should read around 14 volts. Forget checking current flow unless you have a suitable meter.
When a fuse opens it is because too much current was flowing. Usually a "short" is a bare wire or component touching the frame which is connected to the ground battery terminal. (in most cases) In order to check any electrical or electronic device you should have at the minimum a wiring diagram, or plenty of experience. It's better not to take any chances and if you don't feel comfortable doing this, get qualified help.
The first digital meter that I bought cost a few hundred bucks, now imported ones cost under ten. I picked up a Chinese made unit that even tests transistors for $2. I use it more than my expensive stuff because if something happens to it, it's only a $2 mistake. BTW, I get identical readings with both meters.
 
   / KIOTI DK 45 SE HST Stopped while running - won't re-start
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#64  
Well folks,
I just got off the phone with my dealer's mechanic and I do have some news on the old wiring harness that may be helpful.

Apparently there were 3 or 4 points on the wiring harness where the insulation had been worn through. It happened where the wiring harness goes toward the front of the tractor from the three main connectors located under the cab floor on the left side. He said there is a point near the front of the cab where they are bundled together before branching off to the left and right sides.

It was at this point where there was one completely bare wire (the fuel shut off solenoid) and 3 or 4 wires that were wearing through.

The replacement harness, according to the mechanic, has a much heavier wrap than the original and, when he installed it, he made sure there was no tension on the harness that might cause it to wear.

Hope that helps you folks who are wanting to inspect your wiring harness.

Bob
 
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   / KIOTI DK 45 SE HST Stopped while running - won't re-start #65  
Thanks Bob. I imagine a number of use will be crawling around trying to find and inspect those wires. Sounds like taking some duct tape along as a chafe guard might be wise too.
 
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Thanks Bob. I imagine a number of use will be crawling around trying to find and inspect those wires. Sounds like taking some duct tape along as a chafe guard might be wise too.

When running new wiring for lights, battery cables, etc... I use a product called TECHFLEX...

It comes in a wide variety of sizes, lengths... also comes in standard, high heat, flame resistant... etc..
Grainger sells it, along with most local electrical supply houses.. definitely worth the $$$$$ spent.
 
   / KIOTI DK 45 SE HST Stopped while running - won't re-start #67  
well, i hope your problems have been fixed for good. i pulled my dk45se hst into the shop and looked at all the wire bundles coming out of the cab...boy are there alot of them. i placed an additional spiral wound plastic shield and electrical tape on all the wires touching any metal that i could access. i sure hope i got them all covered. there are 2 groups of wire connectors in 2 separate locations on the left underside of the cab. i see that 2 of the runs go up along side the engine compartment. was that the area where the wear occurred??

thank you for all your help
greg
 
   / KIOTI DK 45 SE HST Stopped while running - won't re-start #68  
Well folks,
I just got off the phone with my dealer's mechanic and I do have some news on the old wiring harness that may be helpful.
Bob

Thanks for information Bob, another task for my To Do List.
 
   / KIOTI DK 45 SE HST Stopped while running - won't re-start #69  
Thanks for the interesting discussion Bob.

My DK35 HST should be delivered this week or early next week. I will check all the wiring for potential rub points while it is still shiny-new.

Of course, that will be after an hour or two of just playing with it (ie. no work) to test its handling on my trails. I've never driven an HST and anticipate it will be much easier to drive than a gear machine.
 
   / KIOTI DK 45 SE HST Stopped while running - won't re-start
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#70  
Thanks for the interesting discussion Bob.
.... I've never driven an HST and anticipate it will be much easier to drive than a gear machine.

You're welcome. a learning experience for me as well.

The HST was also new for me and took some getting used to - now I love it.

Patience and practice.

Good luck with your new machine.

Bob
 

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