busting a cap on a new pole barn shop

[JimRB]

I was at someone's farm a few months ago. He was telling me about the building inspector using satelite pictures. They have programs I guess that can scan pictures for what is new since the last time they took a picture. 1,000 feet off the road might not matter if that is true. That said I have put up a small 12x12 shed for a horse and no one fussed. The big barn was permitted but I never did get around to calling for a final. I suspect their department keeps better track of things 14 years later.

Are the wedge anchors going to help? Strong-Bolt™ Wedge Anchor for Cracked and Uncracked Concrete ~ Simpson Strong-Tie Anchor Systems® I have used them a number of times. Once to anchor ham radio antenna cable anchor plates to concrete, building barns, and other stuff. You need a hammer drill but they are pretty neat and strong.

 

[whistlepig]

Pole barn posts don't "walk around". They have a pesky pole barn attached to them to keep this from happening.

 

[adjusterr]

When the Amish built my pole barn they dug postholes, set and tamped 6"x6"
poles then poured the concrete slab around the poles, has been ok for over 10 years. Regarding building and assessment guys, check out "Google Earth", enter your address and you will see how they discover what is going on without leaving their office. I can see deer trails across my meadows and everything on my property with Google Earth. They know everything you do!

 

[mx842]

I was at someone's farm a few months ago. He was telling me about the building inspector using satelite pictures. They have programs I guess that can scan pictures for what is new since the last time they took a picture. 1,000 feet off the road might not matter if that is true. That said I have put up a small 12x12 shed for a horse and no one fussed. The big barn was permitted but I never did get around to calling for a final. I suspect their department keeps better track of things 14 years later.

Are the wedge anchors going to help? Strong-Bolt Wedge Anchor for Cracked and Uncracked Concrete ~ Simpson Strong-Tie Anchor Systemsｮ I have used them a number of times. Once to anchor ham radio antenna cable anchor plates to concrete, building barns, and other stuff. You need a hammer drill but they are pretty neat and strong.

Yes I have used these before and they work pretty good for stuff like this. I already bought a box of 1/2" anchor bolts to use to bolt them down but was planing on having to use the wedge bolts in places where I didn't do such a good job of getting my measurements just right with the anchor bolts.

As far as the building inspector goes Right now all I'm doing is putting in a covered tractor shed and you don't need any permits for that here. Now that's not saying that one day this shed may not be turned into something else.....hint, hint. In reality that is all I am doing at this time; building a storage shed to put my stuff in. That is the beauty of pole barn construction.

 

[mx842]

Pole barn posts don't "walk around". They have a pesky pole barn attached to them to keep this from happening.

Hehehe, I didn't mean to walk around like taking a walk silly. What I meant was what would keep the pole in place if you were parking your tractor in your building and you back it up to the wall and thinking it is out of reverse and you let out on the clutch and the tractor lunges backward and into the wall. I know, I know hypothetical as heck but things like that do happen. I just had to finally replace my 16' garage door where my X got in the car one day and took off without opening the door.

 

[mx842]

When the Amish built my pole barn they dug postholes, set and tamped 6"x6"
poles then poured the concrete slab around the poles, has been ok for over 10 years. Regarding building and assessment guys, check out "Google Earth", enter your address and you will see how they discover what is going on without leaving their office. I can see deer trails across my meadows and everything on my property with Google Earth. They know everything you do!

Oh yeah, I know all about what you are talking about there but they are mostly looking to get their cut and from the looks of my tax assessment I just got they knew I was going to put up a new building before I did.:laughing: Actually they do because I had planed to put this building up when I built my house almost 20 years ago but I ran out of money because right in the middle of my build that big hurricane, Andrew I think it was hit down south and lumber tripled in price over night and left me holding the bag. If I had ordered the building package the day before I would have been alright. My problem was that the job site was a mess, mud everywhere and the grading guy didn't show up to clear a place for the lumber like he said he would do so I didn't have room to put it. Two days later framing 2x4's went from 86 cents to almost $3.00 a piece and 3/4 plywood went from $13.50 a board to almost $40.00 a sheet. That put a really wet rag on my plans but I had to deal with it because I was locked in on a construction loan that had a time limit for completion and I had to get the house under roof by then or lose my financing. I really had to hunker down and do some cutting out of a lot of stuff I wanted to build into my house and of course that meant it was back to planing with new revised drawings and more money dished out to the county for their blessings.

Before I finished my house I ended up having to do 3 site assessments before I got an occupancy permit. What a pain in the butt, that was right when the clean bay act first came into play and nobody knew what was going on or even what the law was so with every change in the original approved plan had to have an additional site assessment.

 

[beeforty]

For my outdoor BBQ covering I used 6x6 posts set on Simpson post anchor, see here:Product Category: Post/Column Bases
I think they were either CB or CBSQ's imbedded in the conrete. It is open sided with 3' diagonals at each post to header. It is pretty sturdy with no side walls and a full roof that is paneled inside. These can hold your posts off the crete. I also used that peel and stick rubber on the post bottoms that comes in a roll for putting wood against concrete.

 

[dfkrug]

My question is, does anyone have a post foundation plan for how they connected their post to the concrete footing?

I do not see wood mentioned in your original post, so I am not assuming
it.

Here is how I did my recently-completed pole shed:
I dug holes down to refusal (rock) and placed/poured cardboard tubes
with concrete and a piece of rebar. My columns were galv steel
schedule 80 pipe that I bought as scrap at the steel yard. Since the
ID of the pipe is much bigger than the rebar OD, I can adjust my
columns an inch or so each way to get them in line (+/- 1/16"). I pour
some concrete down the column when ready, to anchor them.

I was able to actually save money doing it this way, and avoid fire,
termite, carpenter ant, boring beetle, and woodpecker damage.

I did my deck this way, too, but with 16-ft steel 4x4 tubing. Neither
structure includes a slab, but it could be added later.

 

[Scotty370]

MX842: Come-on man! Update your profile a bit to let us know whether your in the swamps of FL, the 'Tornado Alley' of the Midwest, in Alaska, Canada, or Austrailia.........! We can help you better that way..........~S

 

[Aftershock]

I am building at some point a pole barn as well with posts on footings. I was thinking of buying a length of box tube, inside diameter of 8" wall thickness of probably quarter inch. Cut 8" length's then weld a plate on the bottom to accept a threaded rod through the bottom. Put a half inch hole through the boxed tube and post to run another piece of threaded rod through this. The threaded rod going into the footing i was thinking of welding a piece of rebar to each side. As well if you wanted to go further, with the threaded rod that goes perpendicular through the post and box a hurricane tie could be fashioned to the end of it.

I'll be following to see how you make out.

Bill