Welding off a generator

   / Welding off a generator #11  
more power consumed, more power sourced.

IE.. welding at 180a draws more than welding at 70a.. otherwise a guy with a 235a welder would always be drawing max even welding at 70a. a very ineficient proposition!


soundguy
 
   / Welding off a generator #12  
when we calc out loads for welding equipment, the listed amperage....lets say 42 amps @ 240 volts = 10,080 watts.

but a generator only spikes that wattage for a second, after arc is established, the wattage (and amperage draw) is drastically reduced.

but a 5000 watt gen in this situation is pretty much underpowered for any large amt of welding. most people i see are using 10k generator sets to weld off of.
 
   / Welding off a generator #13  
Just curious, does your stick welder run on 110v or 220v?


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I've got an old Chicago Electric stick welder that will weld off 110 or 220. Of course yo have to have the right plug on it I guess. The on/off switch sits in the off position. Turn it left and run 110, turn it right and run 220.

It burns up all the 3/32 rods I have on 110 easily. Haven't tried anything any bigger though. Guess I should try it though.

CB
 
   / Welding off a generator #14  
I have done it. I had to enrich the fuel mixture or the motor-gen would surge.
 
   / Welding off a generator #16  
when we calc out loads for welding equipment, the listed amperage....lets say 42 amps @ 240 volts = 10,080 watts.

but a generator only spikes that wattage for a second, after arc is established, the wattage (and amperage draw) is drastically reduced.

but a 5000 watt gen in this situation is pretty much underpowered for any large amt of welding. most people i see are using 10k generator sets to weld off of.

I came up with that 10k watts also....slightly:laughing: more than what my little 5k rig can handle. I guess I'll just keep dragging my stuff up to the house.
 
   / Welding off a generator #17  
Interesting question.

My old Miller 135 MIG would run off of our Honda 5000 watt generator, no problems at all.

I have a Miller 180 MIG now, and it's not nearly as happy as the 135 was on the generator. Weld quality is iffy once you're past 3/16 material (it's good on normal house current) on the generator.

It also won't quite run full power without opening the breaker.

I checked the frequency at full load, it's close enough to 60 Hz that it shouldn't bother the welder electronics, but there's something that the welder doesn't like.

Sean
 
   / Welding off a generator #19  
As for me I bought acetylene and torch with smaller tanks so I am more portable. Good for smaller jobs and I can heat and bend metal into place. Hope I do not blow up.
 
   / Welding off a generator #20  
My setup:
Lincoln Weld-Pak 155
TroyBuilt Generator 5550W continuous/8550 surge

Use:
Innershield (flux-core) wire most used.
MIG feature is used for Aluminum projects only by me.

One project, a drill pipe fence, I worked 8 days, 12 hours a day with no issues. It was welding a little cold so I did use the "E" tap to get a hotter puddle (grid power I use the "D" tap).

A little info: (Weld-Pak anyway)
The "A,B,C,D & E tap selector switch controls weld voltage.
The Wire Speed also controls weld amperage.
Voltage limits Amperage.

My concern, which one day soon I will learn, is the use of a "Inverter Stick Welder" with a genset. My hopes are that the newer IGBT versions will hold up to the un-clean power supply. The small transformer in my Lincoln Weld-Pak has seen no issues to date.
 

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