CDL??

[chuckhole]

Even after reading this whole thread and what I could find from the Texas DOT, it is still just as confusing.

I am going to get the license anyway. It certainly can't hurt and it can only help.

 

[Wacky]

Even after reading this whole thread and what I could find from the Texas DOT, it is still just as confusing.

I am going to get the license anyway. It certainly can't hurt and it can only help.

:thumbsup:I think after you learn what is typically required for a class A CDL you will be happy you chose that way. It amazes me that some of the safety requirements are not enforced for farm use. I think EVERYONE who drives a "heavy truck" on public roads should be held to the same safety standards as the next. Even after all this, I still don't understand why you need a drivers license to drive a car, but not a CDL if you drive a "heavy truck", if it is for farm use?:confused2: It is all about safety to me. Don't get me wrong, ALL CDL holders are not safe, but they all have to have the same training to get one. What ever you do just be safe:thumbsup:.

 

[MD09]

I'm looking at some used dumptrucks to use to haul some gravel for my drive and as a possible tow vehicle if I need to take my tractor somewhere.
Several of the smaller trucks (Ford F700, F-800) have listed that a Commercial Driver's License is not required. One I am looking at does not say. It is a dual axle Peterbilt 12yd dump truck. Is a CDL based on the size of the truck or does it matter what the use is? Would this truck require one? If I only use it around the ranch, is a CDL still required? If so, how hard are they to get? I live in AZ.

Check with the loacal DMV. If you are using it as a farm vehicle you need to be a farm or zoned as such. General info is 26,001lbs and over is a CDL required vehicle under is not.

If you are just lookign for a one time case it will be cheaper to have some one bring the stone in. Buying the truck is just one part of the cost... insurance will be another and that will be expensive.

Looking to haul you tractor possibly... sound like there is nto had fast requirement there, again cheaper to pay someone to haul it..

2 cents fromt he cheap seats

 

[QRTRHRS]

Even after reading this whole thread and what I could find from the Texas DOT, it is still just as confusing.

I am going to get the license anyway. It certainly can't hurt and it can only help.

For the non professional driver, probably the biggest issue with having the CDL relates to your personal habits. When you are out to your favorite resteraunt, think twice about having that second glass of wine since your allowable BAC is half.

You are also going to be held to a higher standard so pleading ignorance on some seemingly minor item is maybe not going to fly.

The hazmat endorsement is one cost most can avoid. That figure is all over the place depending on where you live. Not to mention you might have to drive a ways to get fingerprinted and tested.

 

[Duffster]

Even after reading this whole thread and what I could find from the Texas DOT, it is still just as confusing.

I am going to get the license anyway. It certainly can't hurt and it can only help.

I wouldn't be so sure of that.

Now do you need the rest of things that can go with it?

Tank endorsement
Dubles endorsement
Hazmat endorsement
Drug test
Log book
Hours of service
DOT numbers.........................

 

[Duffster]

:thumbsup:I think after you learn what is typically required for a class A CDL you will be happy you chose that way. It amazes me that some of the safety requirements are not enforced for farm use. I think EVERYONE who drives a "heavy truck" on public roads should be held to the same safety standards as the next. Even after all this, I still don't understand why you need a drivers license to drive a car, but not a CDL if you drive a "heavy truck", if it is for farm use?:confused2: It is all about safety to me. Don't get me wrong, ALL CDL holders are not safe, but they all have to have the same training to get one. What ever you do just be safe:thumbsup:.

You don't have to have any training to get one here. Just pass the test.

When CDL's can be "bought" like they could be in IL I don't put much faith in a CDL holder being any safer than anyone else. Search for Swift trucking on Youtube and tell me it really makes any difference.

As long as there are old blue hairs with horse blinder sunglasses on the road driving RVs as big as a house then I don't think it really makes any difference.

 

[Reg]

The ones that they say don't need a CDL most likely could once a trailer, over 10k GVWR, is hooked on.

Right.
Since he said he may want to move his tractor around with it (& without knowing what his tractor's trailer is rated at) even a single axle single rear tire Kodiak could require a CDL.
e.g. if trailer GVW 10,000 and Kodiak GVW 16,500

BTW, more or less off topic;
Teamsters (back when) drove horses and the "rating" for a team of four was 26,000 lbs.
Teams of six or eight required special handling, skills and permits.
So if anyone ever asks you "why 26,000 ?" the answer is "History" (-:

(ain't THAT obscure and useless knowledge to have around ?)

 

[BoFuller]

One truck I'm looking at is rated for 27,500 but somebody told me you can get it downgraded to 25,500 if you want to. Just make sure you never actually exceed the 25,500.

 

[Duffster]

One truck I'm looking at is rated for 27,500 but somebody told me you can get it downgraded to 25,500 if you want to.

Derating is an option. Although it may prove easier to get the CDL.

 

[BoFuller]

OK, I stopped in the AZ MVD today and figured it out. I am getting farm plates and I'm downgrading it from 27,500 to 25,500. I won't have to get my CDL immediately although I still want to pursue that route. I do still have to get a medical, also not immediately. She said all I need is the medical and a DOT # and I'm good to go. For particulars, the truck is currently rated 27,500 GVWR, has air brakes, and is a single rear axle.
When I was at my ranch, I met a neighbor who has a dual rear axle dump truck and has been using it in the area for 4 years and has never even registered it. So even though I'm going through the correct process, I could probably get away with doing nothing.