need help.. Dogs and electric fences..

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thatguy

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My sister has two small dogs that figured out they can get out of her backyard by going under her chainlink fence.. Before one of them figured this out, she had not had any problems with this - now its a daily occurence of playing the 'lets go find the dogs' game..

Both dogs are terrier mixes that love root/dig..

Her neighbor mentioned putting in an electric fence (cattle type, not underground) around the bottom of the fence.. it would need to be 4" or so off the ground..

The fence is chain link about 300' long with one 'double gate' opening. the fence starts and stops againt the house..

Thoughts, ideas, comments, other suggestions?

how would you connect the electric wire to the fence? Im assuming it would need to be insulated from the fence..

Would you have to run a double strand of wire so it is in a circuit since the house is between the ends of the fence?

Do they make quick connect ends so you can still use the gate?

thanks

Brian
 
   / need help.. Dogs and electric fences.. #2  
They make 1/2" plastic weave ribbon interlaced with fine steel wire for conduction. Check temporary horse fencing products. I think there is probably enuf variety that you can find something to use to provide a small stand off from the chain link. Quick connects are done with insulated handle with spring inside holding the ribbon tensioned
larry
 
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you just need to use an insulator made for chain link fences and run a wire on it a few inches from the ground. i would think that like most dogs these dogs would get shocked but once and will never try it again. a small ac fence charger would probably to the job very well. there should be no need for more than one strand. don't put the charged line by the gate so you can get access easily. you also need a fence tester so you know its working. and a grounding rod.
 
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You could do the same thing with the wire used for underground dog fence systems. You can find all the components online and do the installation ABOVE ground by just cable tying it to the fence at various parts and then going underground near the gate for the several feet the gate takes up. The reason they run it underground is without something like a chain link fence protecting it, it will get cut.
You would get some flags for marking where the wire was and once you show the dogs using the collars designed for the fence where the 3' perimeter is they will not likely venture near the fence as long as they are alive:thumbsup:
How big is the fenced in yard? You can tune the collars to their size/and temperament and they will learn quickly. Chances are they won't even need the collars once they have been introduced to the 'shock' initially.

Just a thought as to what else you could do for possibly less effort/$$.
 
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Just a thought as to what else you could do for possibly less effort/$$.

I have had very good success with the "Invisible Fence" although other brands are also available.

Even though the hardware seemed pricey, it was much less expensive than dog proofing a fence. Dogs learn much faster if there is a physical barrier as well as the electric one, and this seems like an ideal situation.
 
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they make quick connects as well as chain link insulated stand offs.

everything you need is at most farm stores. from lil 6v solare pulse, high impeadance ones to house power low impeadance steady current models for 10 miles of dirty fence that will light up a brama bull and make a terrier glow in the dark for a week.. :)


soundguy
 
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Beware of electric fences in this application! If the animal gets hung up it is a nasty death! I've seen horses and deer caught up in fences that subsequently died because they couldn't get out before getting shocked to death.

There are better and safer ways and as stated previously, an invisible fence designed for this purpose.

Fred
 
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Beware of electric fences in this application! If the animal gets hung up it is a nasty death! I've seen horses and deer caught up in fences that subsequently died because they couldn't get out before getting shocked to death.

There are better and safer ways and as stated previously, an invisible fence designed for this purpose.

Fred

My goodness. What kind of electric fence are you folks using?
 
   / need help.. Dogs and electric fences.. #9  
Putting electric fence around the bottom of the chain link would work but it would be a real pain to trim around and keep weeds out. If you are thinking electric then invisible fence would be the best choice. When I put my horse fence up I also wanted it dog proof. No-Climb horse fence stretched tightly deters my digging dogs on 99% of my 10 acre pasture. But there are small dips and valleys in the land that allowed some gaps for my dogs to dig under. I cut small sections of pig panel about 12" high with the bottom 4" cut so just the vertical legs of the fence gets hammered in to the ground. Pig panel is good for stopping hogs rooting their way under a fence and works very well for dogs digging their way under a fence also.
 
   / need help.. Dogs and electric fences.. #10  
Beware of electric fences in this application! If the animal gets hung up it is a nasty death! I've seen horses and deer caught up in fences that subsequently died because they couldn't get out before getting shocked to death.

There are better and safer ways and as stated previously, an invisible fence designed for this purpose.

Fred

uh.. I've never seen anything bigger than a bird or lizard 'killed' by an electric fence...

what are you running? house current?!?!?!

the standard off the shelf fencers are animal safe unless maybee you got an old dog with a heart condition or pace maker or something.. :)

soundguy
 

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