need help.. Dogs and electric fences..

[Coyote machine]

Wow! That was an impressive amount of examples of electric fencing at work!:thumbsup:
As to the weed-eating, get a goat and chain it just far enough from the fence that it can eat the fence climbing grass but it won't get caught on the house. I picture your house suspended on a single pole under which is the goat attached to a swivel chain that turns with the movement of the goat. Hence no entanglement.

I was suggesting an invisible fence type setup- one that you buy the components to and install yourself. The big ticket cost is having a salesperson/installer do the job for you. I've repaired and lengthened our invisible fence brand original fence with parts off the net and avoided the ridiculous fees charged to do install or repair of the fence. You can buy 500 foot rolls of the in ground wire and all components for reasonable cost and do it yourself.
Google something like dog containment system parts/components.
And to alleviate the grass at the fence and weed eating issues put the fence at about 1.5- 1.789' above the ground on the fence.

 

[thatguy]

UPDATE - My sister was so worried about 'what if's' she nixed the electric fence AND the invisible fence for various reasons..

We ended up putting 2x6" boards along the bottom of the fence between the fence posts held in place with rebar driven in the ground. .. As long as the dogs dont start digging it should work OK.. We leveled out the ground so it had a tight fit against the fence..

If they start digging we are going to put bury some chicken wire in the ground at the boards..

Thanks for all the help..


Brian

 

[whistlepig]

An electrical fencer will kill an animal if it gets caught in the wire and cannot release itself.

I have a properly installed horse fencer and I can tell you when a horse accidently touches it you can here a snap, the horse jumps up, craps itself and takes off runninng. Metal horseshoes make for a good connection!

If a horse or wild animal gets caught it is lights out.

If you don't believe me, take your shoes off (get rid of your rubber soles), grab hold of an electric fencer and see what happens!

Fred

I have dealt with electric fence now for 35 years on 3 different farms. One farm was a boarding stable with 55 horses. I have been shocked countless times. I have seen horses shocked hundreds of times (with and without metal shoes). Dogs shocked many times. We have had our fence run through by deer more times than I could even count. Nothing suffered or died here.This is a terrible thing to say that animals can die a miserable death from an electric fence when it is simply an untruth.

 

[CurlyDave]

UPDATE - My sister was so worried about 'what if's' she nixed the electric fence AND the invisible fence for various reasons..

We ended up putting 2x6" boards along the bottom of the fence between the fence posts held in place with rebar driven in the ground. .. As long as the dogs dont start digging it should work OK.. We leveled out the ground so it had a tight fit against the fence..

If they start digging we are going to put bury some chicken wire in the ground at the boards...

Why do I think you are starting a battle of wits with a pair of dogs?

My experience has been that if a dog wants out, it is going to get out of a fence. Digging, climbing, and persuading a neighborhood kid to open the gate are all common.

 

[MicroPilot]

Remember, While we humans have things to do during the day to occupy our time, all the dog has to occupy its time is working on getting through, over, or under the fence.

 

[Soundguy]

UPDATE - My sister was so worried about 'what if's' she nixed the electric fence AND the invisible fence for various reasons..

We ended up putting 2x6" boards along the bottom of the fence between the fence posts held in place with rebar driven in the ground. .. As long as the dogs dont start digging it should work OK.. We leveled out the ground so it had a tight fit against the fence..

If they start digging we are going to put bury some chicken wire in the ground at the boards..

Thanks for all the help..


Brian

IMHO.. you might as well go buy the chicken wire.. you've started down the slope now.

if you areen't going to practice premption.. then you are going to spend alot of time and money on makingh a tight fence.

soundguy

 

[Soundguy]

I have dealt with electric fence now for 35 years on 3 different farms. One farm was a boarding stable with 55 horses. I have been shocked countless times. I have seen horses shocked hundreds of times (with and without metal shoes). Dogs shocked many times. We have had our fence run through by deer more times than I could even count. Nothing suffered or died here.This is a terrible thing to say that animals can die a miserable death from an electric fence when it is simply an untruth.

I agree 100%.. just havn't seen it happen.. or heard of it happen, outside this thread...

I live in farm area, and gre up in farm area... Like I told the poster.. before I had a fence checker.. we always just brushed our hands against the fence real quick to test it...



soundguy

 

[SPYDERLK]

I would believe endless repetitive shocks could kill. Poster was talking about an entangled trapped animal. Try pulling an exposed spark plug wire and holding it awhile.
larry

 

[Soundguy]

I would believe endless repetitive shocks could kill. Poster was talking about an entangled trapped animal. Try pulling an exposed spark plug wire and holding it awhile.
larry

unaided, an animal so trapped that it -cannot- escape from a tangled wire fence is going to die... electric or not. the fact that it is struggling is going to make it die faster from stress and exhaustion. as I noted in 1 o fthe 2 google hits I found.. an animal that was found tangled in a wire fence that also was electrified was concluded to have died from secondary stress, not the electric directly.

Plus.. you have to figure in that once the electric wire can find ground.. you have to re-examine that circuit.. electricity is lazy.. the electric wire, if in good contact with well conducting ground is going to conduct easier to ground, than thru the animal to ground.

add in a lil electrolyte.. say.. urine.. which at that point should be available.. and you have an even better ground plane for that downed animal, wrapped in wire to lay on.. thus at a VERY MINIMUM, making for a parallel circuit with most of the conduction going straight to ground.

on a steady current fencer I would believe you might still get some shock off the line.. but the pulsed and low impeadance charges just can't handle line faults like that and output dies off. doesn't take much of a fualt to ground to 'short' the line and prevent / reduce the shock.

that's a common technique to find a fault on a fence that may or may not be obvious.

walk the line of the fence backwards, and test the line every few yards to see where you pick power back up.. then backtrack.. somewhere between loosing power and gaining power is your fault.. could be a twig, , or in my case.. a lizard, a piece of 'extra wire' or a wire kicked in and touching the fence.. etc.

soundguy

 

[deerefan]

We have put concrete footings under fences to keep the dog from digging, extendng out 6" on either side of the fence going down 18". As far as I know, the dogs could not escape. As for the electric fence, I have 30 acres or so fenced and cross fenced under one and have never had an animal die from it. I will say it hurts real bad when you are sweaty and accidentally touch it, but it did not kill me. They make all types, even one that runs on D batteries.