Degolyerent
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I am not the one who named it, nor did I buy it, but I did Google it and that is what it said
Bush Hog~ Driveline shortening? Argghh!!
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RoyJackson
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Boy, Brother...gettin' a wee bit grouchy in our old age?
gwdixon
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Valid point - especially for newcomers.
I figured if there was enough slack to hook up the locking ring when level then it would probably be alright.
SLOWLY raising the 3PH to view the compression of the shaft was the point. Jamming the 3PH could cause damage to the tractor's PTO or implements gear box as pointed out.
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Still not a good idea...
I haven't had to cut down a PTO drive shaft in years, but I do measure the collapsed length on any "new" (PTO powered) implement drive shaft.
I remove the drive shaft (from the implement), hook the implement (sans drive shaft) to my 3PH and raise it until the tractor's stub shaft and the implement gearbox shaft are level (shortest distance between them). Then I measure locking groove to locking groove. Then, with the implement drive shaft collapsed, I measure the overall length (factoring in the distance from the end of the drive shaft's yokes to the locking pins).
It's not an exact measurement, but close enough to ensure I won't jam the PTO stub shaft or implement gearbox.
BTW, it's easier to do this with another person and it took longer to type this then to do the measurements.
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And ... while your messing around with the PTO shaft SHUT OFF THE TRACTOR.
LD1
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:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: Excellent point as well.
The last PTO I had to shorten was a new one I bought for a flail mower.
I needed a approximatally 34" OAL. I ordered if from CCMachine. And a 48" one was cheaper than a 34" one by about $20:confused2: go figure.
I did just as suggested here, hook the implement up and raise it until its stubshaft is at its closest point to the tractors PTO. Then measure from the hole or dimples in the spline (where the PTO yoke seats on the stub-shafts).
Then I measured the new PTO shaft from those same points (bolt holes, locking pin, collar, etc) The PTO shaft was about 13.5" TOO long. So I cut off about 14.5" to allow a little room for error. This still allows sufficent overlap when the implement is lowered.
As said, you have to cut THAT amount off BOTH halves of the PTO. And then trim the cover/guard about 2" shorter than that:thumbsup:
These instructions arent very hard, and very black and white.
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Thanks to all who took time to reply and gave valid points as to the questions I posed.
As to "Xtreme": it is what WOODS chose to call this series of mowers. It is like the saying "Extreme Sports" which most don't use any more as a defining term.
In reality it means NOTHING, but it has the implication of being something extraordinary - which it clearly isn't in this application. It is merely a marketing ploy used to rope in those newbies to mowers, (like me) and those less knowledgeable than those with experience, (you guys :laughing
in all things Bush Hog / Brush Hog, etc.)
The names of Bush Hog and Brush Hog being similar is the same thing as what car manufacturers do, imitation being the sincerest form of flattery.
You don't think it was by accident that Woods coined the term brush hog to compete with Bush Hog do you?!
Take me for instance, if one of you guys told me what I needed to get my field mowed was a Bush Hog and I went looking for one and stumbled across a Brush Hog by Woods I might think it was what you told me to go buy. Another example is Dr. field and brush mowers. Though clearly not the same product by any means the implication is something that one might be led to believe does the same type of work, when clearly they are for and accomplish different tasks.
Extreme or xtreme is like using OFF ROAD for every truck that has 4wd capabilities. In reality it means nothing- except for possibly some minor upgrades, like stiffer shocks or springs. A true off roader would laugh at the need for real heavy duty suspension and other mods before they would use such a truck for off road adventurers.
I fully admit I was fooled by the label on the mower which said Xtreme. I thought by looking at the mower on the dealer's lot that it looked heavy duty enough compared to what I had seen elsewhere at places like TSC, as but one example, and it looked to be strong enough for me regardless of the label pronouncing it's ability to climb tall buildings and cut the biggest bush into *smithereens!
* technical term meaning: obliterate into a bazillion pieces.
In defense of my purchase, not that I need to defend it, BUT, I bought the Woods unit and am Xtremely happy with it so far, partly because my tractor dealer sells them and he is close by if I need anything. And I had been thinking for some time about buying a rear mower anyway, but had not done any real research on them other than looking at various brands at places where they are sold.
I judged the unit I bought based on quality of the appearance, welds, structure, size of bolts, support arms etc., not because it said Xtreme or Kriptonite or anything else.
One remaining question: Why would it be harmful to raise the mower with the shafts installed if the tractor is not running, once the shafts are cut to length? That is the way one is intended to transport the mower is it not?
As to "Xtreme": it is what WOODS chose to call this series of mowers. It is like the saying "Extreme Sports" which most don't use any more as a defining term.
In reality it means NOTHING, but it has the implication of being something extraordinary - which it clearly isn't in this application. It is merely a marketing ploy used to rope in those newbies to mowers, (like me) and those less knowledgeable than those with experience, (you guys :laughing
in all things Bush Hog / Brush Hog, etc.)The names of Bush Hog and Brush Hog being similar is the same thing as what car manufacturers do, imitation being the sincerest form of flattery.
You don't think it was by accident that Woods coined the term brush hog to compete with Bush Hog do you?!
Take me for instance, if one of you guys told me what I needed to get my field mowed was a Bush Hog and I went looking for one and stumbled across a Brush Hog by Woods I might think it was what you told me to go buy. Another example is Dr. field and brush mowers. Though clearly not the same product by any means the implication is something that one might be led to believe does the same type of work, when clearly they are for and accomplish different tasks.
Extreme or xtreme is like using OFF ROAD for every truck that has 4wd capabilities. In reality it means nothing- except for possibly some minor upgrades, like stiffer shocks or springs. A true off roader would laugh at the need for real heavy duty suspension and other mods before they would use such a truck for off road adventurers.
I fully admit I was fooled by the label on the mower which said Xtreme. I thought by looking at the mower on the dealer's lot that it looked heavy duty enough compared to what I had seen elsewhere at places like TSC, as but one example, and it looked to be strong enough for me regardless of the label pronouncing it's ability to climb tall buildings and cut the biggest bush into *smithereens!
* technical term meaning: obliterate into a bazillion pieces.
In defense of my purchase, not that I need to defend it, BUT, I bought the Woods unit and am Xtremely happy with it so far, partly because my tractor dealer sells them and he is close by if I need anything. And I had been thinking for some time about buying a rear mower anyway, but had not done any real research on them other than looking at various brands at places where they are sold.
I judged the unit I bought based on quality of the appearance, welds, structure, size of bolts, support arms etc., not because it said Xtreme or Kriptonite or anything else.
One remaining question: Why would it be harmful to raise the mower with the shafts installed if the tractor is not running, once the shafts are cut to length? That is the way one is intended to transport the mower is it not?
RoyJackson
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Who ya callin' OLD?
Doesn't anyone have a sense of humor anymore?
Just funnin', Bro...that's why I did it in EYEtalics...
Farmwithjunk
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Sooner or later, everyone will catch on to the fact that dang near EVERYTHING I say/type is centered around good natured joshin'. (Hence, the
) And it's alright to call me old....