Use bio-diesel?

   / Use bio-diesel? #11  
I have thought making my own biodiesel from vegetable oil would be interesting but dont have a clue about the process. What are the basics? Any good accurate websites or books to learn from? Do you run the biodiesel in newer IDI and DI engines or only older diesels? Done it for how long? Sorry for the questions but the idea does sound really neat.
 
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Yep we put it through the whole process with methanol and lye then wash it, drain off the glycerol and then dry it.
 
   / Use bio-diesel? #13  
I was running B20 until last fall. I got a nice load of red, slimy algae in my pickup truck that I'm still working on to eradicate.

I've been running off road B20 in the farm tractors with no problem but after the red gook in my pickup, it's ULSD and Cat additive from now on. Piss on going green.
 
   / Use bio-diesel? #14  
For me it would have nothing to do with "going green". My thought is more about being self sufficient and saving money. Think more along the lines of having a garden or reloading ammunition, that type of thing. There are a lot of recipes on the web, I am sure it can be done. I was wondering more about how practical it would be. The original poster seems to have good luck with WVO bio in tractors(older ones maybe?) and you don't like B20 in your truck. Something more than Wiki or a website that wants to sell me something claims. Just seems like an intersting idea. More google searches for me I guess.
 
   / Use bio-diesel? #15  
Organic gradening.... Yes.
Reloading.... Yes
Hunting for the freezer... Yes
Heating with bio fuel... Yes

Bio Diesel... **** no.:D

One go around with the stinky, slimy, gooey red crap that permeates everything, clogs your filters, ruins your fuel pump and clogs your injectors and you'll agree....

Fryer grease needs to be for dust control Soy beans are for food additives, plastic compounds and animal feed, not for motor fuel.
 
   / Use bio-diesel? #16  
I bought 20 gallons of B99 made in a commercial refinery and tried it in various proportions, working down from using it straight. I hadn't had trouble starting this 30 year old Yanmar before, but it became difficult to start and didn't improve as I worked down to B50, B20, then no B at all. Power Service made no difference. Finally I replaced the injectors (looked like they had never been out before) and went back to ULSD. It's fun to try new stuff, but that was a $200 lesson that I should have left well enough alone.

My next green experiment is trying various LED light bulbs around the house....


You can tell the pioneers by the arrows in their backs.
 
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   / Use bio-diesel? #17  
The LED's will be a much more productive experiment. I've used LED's for years in the tail light assemblies on my trailers and commercial vehicles. replacement is non-existent.
 
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5030 and California, it is really too bad you had those problems with the fuel. It sounds to me like you guys got some poorly made fuel. We had a bad experience when we were first trying it out. At that point we were buying biodiesel and we ended up getting poorly made. Gummed up our fuel filters and made our tractors smoke like crazy but luckily we caught it soon enough and drained it out. That inspired us to make our own biodiesel so we could know the quality of the fuel we were putting in our tanks. We have made just over 10,000 gallons of biodiesel over the past 6 years and run it in our '99 JD6110, mid 80s JD 2155, '73 Massey 135, Kobelco 5 ton mini-excavator, '97 dodge cummins, and variety of VW diesels with no serious problems that can be attributed to biodiesel use. We do mix with petroleum diesel in the colder months to avoid the fuel gelling.

If you feel better about buying fuel instead of making it get a pHLip test pHLip Biodiesel Field Test Kit || Instructions or something similar so you can do a field test of the fuel before you purchase. However that test is only for 100% biodiesel.

For those wanting more info about using biodiesel check these links out
Utah Biodiesel Supply - Biodiesel Processing Supplies, Equipment, Processors and Information - Biodiesel Homebrewing
Education | Piedmont Biofuels

For those thinking about trying to make your own, the very best resource is called the "Biodiesel Homebrew Guide" by Maria "Mark" Alovert. She used to have info all over the web and sell this guide for about $20 but about two or three years ago she disappeared and so has all her information :confused:. So if possible find that one. Otherwise the two links above give you some pretty good information on how to do it.

One of the best ways is to just try making your first batch in a 2 liter soda bottle. Utah biodiesel supplies sells a kit to do that size experimental batch but you dont really need to buy the kit if you are willing to tinker a bit. That is how we started out.
 
   / Use bio-diesel? #19  
It sounds to me like you guys got some poorly made fuel.
Yep.

I think biodiesel is presently useful for someone who can make his own fuel, or has the ability to test purchased fuel and control its quality. I hope an industry will evolve to provide uniform-quality biodiesel. I think reducing dependency on imported fuel should be a national goal.
 
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   / Use bio-diesel? #20  
The LED's will be a much more productive experiment. I've used LED's for years in the tail light assemblies on my trailers and commercial vehicles. replacement is non-existent.
My fifth LED household bulb arrived today. Best yet!

Claimed 7 watts, 720 lumens. $8 including delivery. It seems brighter than a 60 watt incandescent. Some 75 watt bulbs don't claim as many lumens. The price on LEDs is dropping rapidly, last year I see this output cost $40.

Oops GrowFarmers I didn't mean to pull your thread off topic. I encourage you to keep biodiesel in the spotlight.
 

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