Most important hydraulic functions in the 110

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#11  
I liked the last 110 - Michigan - the best. The '05 and '04 both looked to be well used... and the '02 is/was a rental machine. The tires were a bit sketchy and you'll be lookin' for new rears soon on that '05.

You might find that the 16" bucket on the '02 to be marginal for thumb use. I had an 18" before and now have a 20" hoe bucket. The 18" is OK, but I really like the 20" better as it provides a wider base upon which a log, rock, etc. can lay on under thumb pressure.

'Course of the 5 machines - I'd be most interested in the Montana tractor. Of all 5; I'd pay a premium for that one!

Ask if they're the original owner. Repair and maintainence histories - if available. Get the Serial# numbers and talk real nice to your local JD shop foreman and see if he can look up any repair history. Ask for more pics and look for the usual leaky cylinders and rod scratches. Also, look at the loader and backhoe valve bodies or ask if they're leaking. With 2,000 hours and work at a construction company or cement plant/quarry - it's about time that the cylinders and valve bodies will be gettin' tired and leak down will be more prevalent.

Most of the machines did not have rear lights, no belly pan and the stabilizer shields. Those are fairly important - IMO. You can buy those and add later (although the belly pan will be expensive to buy and ship; ~160lbs). I paid $850 for it new.

Front bucket for the last machine will likely run ~$1,000 with replaceable cutting edge. And that would be for a good used one!

Lastly; and I can't say this enough... you get what you pay for -- and pay for what you want!!! Personally, I can't afford to "spend" my way outta mistakes! So, I do the best I can to buy what I want the 1st time!

Best of luck.

AKfish


I know what your saying about the Montana machine. That thing would be my "dream" machine got everything that I could want. I would really have to wait till spring if I was to get that one though for the money. I really like it though.

If I had to give up one or the other, I would keep the extra hydraulics on the FEL and think about a mechanical thumb for the hoe. This is much less convenient than a hydraulic thumb, but still a workable way to go.

If you get the hydraulics for the thumb, there is no mechanical grapple...


I think if I don't decide to go with the Montana machine this will be the way I go. Never thought of it this way but that way I still get both.
 
   / Most important hydraulic functions in the 110 #12  
I have both, on the FEL, and the 7th function on the BH. I couldn't justify the cost of the rear remotes, and they were hard to get. I use my front for a grapple, as well as my logsplitter.
I don't have a thumb yet for the hoe, but I use the aux hydraulic for a PA 30 auger.

Ideally you will find one with both. With the loader being SSQA compatible, it opens up a lot of possibilities to need the front hydraulic function.
Either a thumb, or an auger might go on the back. Or maybe even a log grapple for the hoe?

Best of luck on finding what you want!
 
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#13  
Gotta think about this. I really don't want to spend as much money as the Montana machine. I won't NEED anything till spring so I'll probably wait it out till then and hope it drops about $10,000:laughing::laughing: but be checking around for a good deal. Here's the link to the Montana machine. What do you guys think?
2006 DEERE 110 Machines - Loader Backhoes For Sale At MachineryTrader.com
 
   / Most important hydraulic functions in the 110 #14  
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I compare the used price with the new price.. Factor in the hours, the options, the condition.

Replacement cost for the Montana machine - new - would likely be in the neighborhood of $45K; as configured.

You MIGHT get the seller to split the shipping costs or come down a $1,000-1,5000.... or he might suggest that you "grab a shovel"! :laughing:

AKfish
 
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Since you asked, it seems overpriced, but they always are.

Not sure if this has too many hours for you? It has both aux hookups.
2004 John Deere 110TLB Tractors - Compact (1-40hp.) - John Deere MachineFinder

If they would be at about 24k, it would be more like it, IMHO. It feels like since they have discontinued them, the used prices are up a bit.


I'd have to think so. I see used ones next to $40k which is outrageous. I do like that one but still looking for a better deal.

I compare the used price with the new price.. Factor in the hours, the options, the condition.

Replacement cost for the Montana machine - new - would likely be in the neighborhood of $45K; as configured.

You MIGHT get the seller to split the shipping costs or come down a $1,000-1,5000.... or he might suggest that you "grab a shovel"! :laughing:

AKfish


:laughing:Shovel is might be where I end up!! I will contact the dealer tomorrow, just to see what he can do. I'm fixing my cabin up currently and have about $10k into it so far and not even half way done, all money that was going to go to a new tractor. Chances are I'll be waiting till spring or a unbeatable deal to come along. At the price its at though I feel its fair but not something I need to get now because there won't be a better/same deal come springtime. I'd like to have something now but with the purchase of our new place and fixing our current up to sell it I want to wait until spring when I will actually "need" the extra power on the new place.
 
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Just to help you out a little more in your thought process in regards to hydro, there are some things you can modify in the field that Deere says you cant, and a couple things that you can, but are prohibitively expensive. Such as....

Front 3rd fuction. Parts are available, but without this option from the factory, the parts become ridiculous. Figure the fact that the stick is even missing the buttons. The loader control mounted on the frame is only a 2 port and one solid manifold The wiring is in the harness, but since the steel lines arent present up fron too, youd pay an arm an a leg.

Backhoe 7th function. Deere says cant be field modified, but the parts are available and even listed as a kit. The valve is a bolt together, so installing number 7 isnt a major ordeal. You can even make up your own hydro lines. This is something you can add on if you need it. Im not saying cheap, but it can be done.

Rear work ports and diverter. Im working on researching this now. The manifold lists for 2k, and thats without any steel lines. But the wiring is present. Deere lists a diverter kit in the parts diagrams but doesnt include numbers. Theres a possibility this could be modded in, but dont hold your breath. But there is a work around.

Rear power beyond. The connection to the hoe can be use as a power beyond circuit. I recently modified my setup and removed the permenant hose and attached it to the hoe. Instead there is a male quick connect. A short jumper hose is used when the backhoe is off which cleans up the twisted hose mess. It also allows me to run anything i need directly of those ports. You can do this too even without moving the hose The work around for the rear ports is to setup a 3 spool valve that clamps to the rops and quick connects to the ports. Loader stays functional with the ports attached. Take it off when you dont need it

I dont use eithier hydraulic lines yet, but if you find one with the rear ports and you plan on using the tractor to grade with a box blade and top n tilt, buy it. If not, get the one with the front connection since there is no easy work around. If you imeadiately plan to use a thumb or auger, then look at the rear hookups, but they are definately the easiest to modify. Having it all stock is the cats meow, but unless an individual ordered it that way, good luck finding it.

Happy shopping!


Btw, im a lurker, not a poster, ive been a member for a while and have a 110. I like to read and learn, and post when i can contribute. Im also someone who likes to modify and tweak things . Like how to possibly make an extendahoe for a 110.

Dan
 
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#18  
dsh82 said:
Just to help you out a little more in your thought process in regards to hydro, there are some things you can modify in the field that Deere says you cant, and a couple things that you can, but are prohibitively expensive. Such as....

Front 3rd fuction. Parts are available, but without this option from the factory, the parts become ridiculous. Figure the fact that the stick is even missing the buttons. The loader control mounted on the frame is only a 2 port and one solid manifold The wiring is in the harness, but since the steel lines arent present up fron too, youd pay an arm an a leg.

Backhoe 7th function. Deere says cant be field modified, but the parts are available and even listed as a kit. The valve is a bolt together, so installing number 7 isnt a major ordeal. You can even make up your own hydro lines. This is something you can add on if you need it. Im not saying cheap, but it can be done.

Rear work ports and diverter. Im working on researching this now. The manifold lists for 2k, and thats without any steel lines. But the wiring is present. Deere lists a diverter kit in the parts diagrams but doesnt include numbers. Theres a possibility this could be modded in, but dont hold your breath. But there is a work around.

Rear power beyond. The connection to the hoe can be use as a power beyond circuit. I recently modified my setup and removed the permenant hose and attached it to the hoe. Instead there is a male quick connect. A short jumper hose is used when the backhoe is off which cleans up the twisted hose mess. It also allows me to run anything i need directly of those ports. You can do this too even without moving the hose The work around for the rear ports is to setup a 3 spool valve that clamps to the rops and quick connects to the ports. Loader stays functional with the ports attached. Take it off when you dont need it

I dont use eithier hydraulic lines yet, but if you find one with the rear ports and you plan on using the tractor to grade with a box blade and top n tilt, buy it. If not, get the one with the front connection since there is no easy work around. If you imeadiately plan to use a thumb or auger, then look at the rear hookups, but they are definately the easiest to modify. Having it all stock is the cats meow, but unless an individual ordered it that way, good luck finding it.

Happy shopping!

Btw, im a lurker, not a poster, ive been a member for a while and have a 110. I like to read and learn, and post when i can contribute. Im also someone who likes to modify and tweak things . Like how to possibly make an extendahoe for a 110.

Dan

Thanks for the info. I have a pretty busy schedule so for me I either had to pay to get it done or have something that's super quick and simple to hook up. I really don't have the time to build it all like factory if I ended up doing that it would just be an after market kit and save some $$$.

But I would love to see that 110 extendahoe you talk about! You could make a small fortune making/selling those.
 
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I don't have a 110 (I have a Kub M59), however I thought I would chime in here.

To me the reason for purchasing a TLB is to have the most functionality in one unit. I can't imagine not having front hydraulics or the hydraulic thumb. I often run a grapple on the front and I use the hydraulic thumb on the backhoe just about everytime I use the machine! These two options are a must have for me.

I don't have the rear remotes/aux ports and to be honest I don't miss them. On the 59 I can add them later for about 3k. Based on the price info from Dan it seems like adding the front aux or the rear power beyond is quite expensive. Assuming the rear remotes/aux ports are similar in price (or can be purchased for less aftermarket), I think this would be the option to omit.

Overall, I would wait to find the used machine that has all the options you want, or can add later at a reasonable price.

Have you thought about buying a new machine with the options you want? I'm not sure about JDs financing rates but sometimes buying new and financing can make more sense as it ties up less cash than buying used...and you get a warranty to boot.

-Mark
 
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I don't have a 110 (I have a Kub M59), however I thought I would chime in here.

To me the reason for purchasing a TLB is to have the most functionality in one unit. I can't imagine not having front hydraulics or the hydraulic thumb. I often run a grapple on the front and I use the hydraulic thumb on the backhoe just about everytime I use the machine! These two options are a must have for me.

I don't have the rear remotes/aux ports and to be honest I don't miss them. On the 59 I can add them later for about 3k. Based on the price info from Dan it seems like adding the front aux or the rear power beyond is quite expensive. Assuming the rear remotes/aux ports are similar in price (or can be purchased for less aftermarket), I think this would be the option to omit.

Overall, I would wait to find the used machine that has all the options you want, or can add later at a reasonable price.

Have you thought about buying a new machine with the options you want? I'm not sure about JDs financing rates but sometimes buying new and financing can make more sense as it ties up less cash than buying used...and you get a warranty to boot.

-Mark

M59 is a nice machine. I was looking at them but they were a little much money and a little large for where I want to go with it. I don't think the MT machine has all the rear aux hyd for a TnT system but MtnViewRanch guy on here said he could hook me up with what I needed for a TnT system so I'm not super worried about those hyd for a TnT. I would like the other hyd more as they look a lot better. As far as buying new goes the boss may leave me with everything besides it!:laughing: Would like a new but wife's not taking the bait:(
 

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