Help With WorkTrak 404 29.4KW engine

[Hickory Creek]

Hattiesburg actually. However property is about 17 miles North of Wiggins.

Are you in Mississsippi or close by?

I will be going down to try a start up this weekend, as I am feeling better. After some reaearch, I think I may need to bleed the lines. On top of that, I think I may need an new battery as the tractor does not seem to turn over very fast. Also having to jump start at solonoid just adds to aggravation.

Will be getting year off of tractor body so I can order the manuals this coming week.

 

[btr568]

I live in Lucedale.....what day you going ??? If I can get shuck loose from da little woman,I could ride over and see if Maybe we can gett"er to fire off right.601-947-6631 my name is Nathan

 

[McGeesEquip]

If you installed a new battery and the unit is still turning over slowly, then you may have an issue with the starter. Since this unit has been setting up for a while more likly there may be a lot of rust in the starter housing unit. There is a decompression lever on the dash panel that you can turn to decompress the engine to help get the engine turning over when you try starting the unit. Try decompressing the engine while you start with the key to try to get the engine turning over more quickly. While decompressing the engine, and turning the engine over with the key see if the engine will turn over more quickly. While the engine is turning over more quickly flip the decompression lever back to the normal position.

It sounds like you have a bad starter, but the starter may can be broken down and clean and the rust removed from the starter housing.

 

[greg_g]

I may need an new battery as the tractor does not seem to turn over very fast.

Are you using the compression release prior to starting?

//greg//

 

[Hickory Creek]

Greg an McGees, Three questions.

1. I think this is a 2000-2005 tractor. Where is the year model plaque located on tractor. I found engine plaque, but need to know year of tractor. I looked under rear fenders and on what of transmission I could see. Manufacturer did a good job of hiding transmission under frame. Where exactly do I need to get a flashlight and look?

2. Where on dash panel is the decompression lever located, what does it look like? This would be a big help if I have to bleed fuel lines like I think I need to do.

3. If I put an old push button starter button on dash to solonoid, what amperage does the solonoid rerquire to engauge properly. Currently using a screwdriver to jump starter solonoid to crank engine.

Thanks to all.

 

[greg_g]

1. Could have fallen off. Every Chinese tractor ID tag I've ever seen was on a visible surface; typically inside one of the rear fenders (as seen from the operator seat), or alongside the transmission housing (above floorboard level). Very little you can tell without it, as the engine and tranny in pre-EPA tractors are not necessarily of the same vintage.

2. Don't know that tractor specifically, but - when so equipped - it's always accessible from the operator seat. On my Jinmas it was a lever down and to the left from the steering wheel. Turning it 90 degrees would open the compression release, letting go would automatically close it. On my Kama, it was a choke pull arrangement, also below the level of the steering wheel. Pull to open, release to automatically close. On my TaiShan, the engine was compression release equipped, but there wasn't enough room between the valve cover and the fuel tank for the linkage. So I had to start that one without the benefit of compression release. When in doubt, find the linkage at the back of the valve cover, then trace the cable back to the operator position.

3. Forget the push button, install a starter relay; maybe $15 or so at most auto parts stores. The old fashioned Ford type with 10ga primary wire is all you need: 10ga from battery to relay, 10ga from relay to starter solenoid. Then just move the tractor starter wire from the solenoid to the relay. I got two big spiral type hose clamps and strapped the relay right to the starter housing on my TaiShan. And because that was the tractor without compression release, I added a second identical relay to the glow plug circuit.

//greg//

 

[Hickory Creek]

Greg, Thanks, I just happen to have a NIB old Ford relay laying around from my 62 Falocn of years ago. Still, my problem is no juice from crank position on key to wire on starter solonoid. Have no idea out of the 5 points on the back of starter switch which does what. Have not taken time to troubleshoot each one. That is why I need to get manuals.

Where are the glow plugs? I use to have an old generator that had a resistance coil in air intake that would get good and hot. Looked all over breather section and found no wiring on this thing.

Also, someone told me that these tractors had 2 - 6volt batteries, guess they were in series, as this thing has a 12 volt rated at 625CCA but it is 3 years old. Charged it up just yesterday when I was at farm. It does turn the engine over, but not as fast as I think it should.

On ID plate, I was looking inside fender well and under body itself on transmission. No brains enough to look in obvious place like up top around seat area.

I will find the compression release thanks to your help.

Thanks for the input.

 

[Diamondpilot]

What group is that battery? Seems small. I run a group 31 in my Jimna 284.

Chris

 

[greg_g]

Glow plugs, not manifold heater. If you have the SL3105 engine, they'll look like 3 skinny spark plugs sticking outa the side of the upper cylinder head. Pretty sure it's a swirl chamber engine, so there'll be one close to each injector.

That battery is too small. Should be minimum 750CCA, more if there's not compression release.

Can't help you on the switch posts, you'll have to work that out with an ohm-meter Find one with continuity to the clutch interlock switch under the left floorboard. That's the starter wire.

//greg//

 

[Affordable]

The SL3105 Engine is a direct injection engine, not a swirl chamber so there are no Glow plugs,there should be a decompression lever.

Tommy
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