Spill-proof spout=slow flow spout

[lostcause]

obviously, not all cans are created equal, but if you have a can like mine and you can't fill a tractor with a vertical filler neck then it's because the can is smarter than you are. i've had a 5 gal no spill diesel can for several years now and i must say that it's the slickest thing since sliced bread for fueling my tractor. i have a jd770 that fuels through the hood so all i have to do is put the can spout in the fuel fill neck and let it flow. the can automatically stops fueling when the tank is full, so there is no spillage.

the other nice thing is that i don't have to exert any energy to hold the can up while filling. i have to lift the can above the hood like you would for any fill-up, and then i just lower it in the hole. i turn the can totally upside down and because of the safety spout it does not leak at all. i have a much harder time trying to pour into a filler neck from a full old style can without spilling. once the spout is in the filler neck i just have to hold the can from tipping over, which takes just over zero strength to do. the fuel empties, and when the tank level reaches the spout the air supply is cut off and the can stops flowing. as you pull the can out the spout springs shut and there is no spillage.

i've had less than stellar luck with some angled neck safety spouts on cans, but this type can't be beat for filling my tractor. if you have one of the newer tractors with the massive filler necks you can always cut a piece of thin (16ga) plate to fit over the neck and cut a hole in the center to allow the spout to go in.

CARB Compliant Plastic Fuel Can - 5 Gallon Diesel | AW Direct

 

[pacerron]

obviously, not all cans are created equal, but if you have a can like mine and you can't fill a tractor with a vertical filler neck then it's because the can is smarter than you are. i've had a 5 gal no spill diesel can for several years now and i must say that it's the slickest thing since sliced bread for fueling my tractor. i have a jd770 that fuels through the hood so all i have to do is put the can spout in the fuel fill neck and let it flow. the can automatically stops fueling when the tank is full, so there is no spillage.

the other nice thing is that i don't have to exert any energy to hold the can up while filling. i have to lift the can above the hood like you would for any fill-up, and then i just lower it in the hole. i turn the can totally upside down and because of the safety spout it does not leak at all. i have a much harder time trying to pour into a filler neck from a full old style can without spilling. once the spout is in the filler neck i just have to hold the can from tipping over, which takes just over zero strength to do. the fuel empties, and when the tank level reaches the spout the air supply is cut off and the can stops flowing. as you pull the can out the spout springs shut and there is no spillage.

i've had less than stellar luck with some angled neck safety spouts on cans, but this type can't be beat for filling my tractor. if you have one of the newer tractors with the massive filler necks you can always cut a piece of thin (16ga) plate to fit over the neck and cut a hole in the center to allow the spout to go in.

CARB Compliant Plastic Fuel Can - 5 Gallon Diesel | AW Direct

Designing no spill nozzles must be the new game in town. I saw one at Walmart today with a long nozzle like the one in your Url for $9.95
It had a green notched collar around the black filler pipe that had to be turned about 1/4 turn to get it to line up with stationary notches in the stem. This opened a butterfly valve at the end of the nozzle next to the tank.
It didn't look like it would seal very good and all the levers to the butterfly inside the nozzle looked like they would restrict the fuel flow. The cap on the end was a very loose fit. They had them in red for gasoline and blue for Kerosene. Not many left, so they either work great or there are a bunch of dissapointed folks in the area.
Is this the same mechanism as the one you are saying works good and fast?

 

[lostcause]

Designing no spill nozzles must be the new game in town. I saw one at Walmart today with a long nozzle like the one in your Url for $9.95
It had a green notched collar around the black filler pipe that had to be turned about 1/4 turn to get it to line up with stationary notches in the stem. This opened a butterfly valve at the end of the nozzle next to the tank.
It didn't look like it would seal very good and all the levers to the butterfly inside the nozzle looked like they would restrict the fuel flow. The cap on the end was a very loose fit. They had them in red for gasoline and blue for Kerosene. Not many left, so they either work great or there are a bunch of dissapointed folks in the area.
Is this the same mechanism as the one you are saying works good and fast?

i can't say if that would be a good spout, but it is probably similar. on mine there is a groove/slot that must be lined up to work. i leave it lined up all the time and haven't had an issue yet. the can in the link looks identical to the one i bought several years ago. i got mine at home depot and i think i paid somewhere around $15-$18. i've seen some others that don't look too hot, but i guess you can't tell by looks.

i've got a few old wedco cans that originally had the accordian style fillers that long ago cracked. i bought wedco no spill spouts for them and they worked fairly well for a couple years, but then the spring loaded mechanism got sticky (more like scratched plastic) and didn't want to close fast enough to prevent leaks. the springs and internals also rusted out and they fell apart at the 3 year mark. this may be because they were for gasoline, a detergent, where the one that is still working after 6+ years was for diesel, which is more of an oil. it could also be a better design?

i won't say that any of them are super fast. you can look at the size of the spout and realize it won't be as fast as an old school spout, but i really do love mine for the tractor. way less spilling than when i used to try to pour out of a full 5 gallon can. the biggest thing i see is people trying to fight with the no spill spouts. they try to hold the spout open with their hand when it is supposed to be opened by pressure against the filler neck. they also don't put the spout in the filler - maybe it's an old school reaction where they want to see when it gets full, but if you use these properly, they will stop filling when full anyways.

 

[pacerron]

. the biggest thing i see is people trying to fight with the no spill spouts. they try to hold the spout open with their hand when it is supposed to be opened by pressure against the filler neck. they also don't put the spout in the filler - maybe it's an old school reaction where they want to see when it gets full, but if you use these properly, they will stop filling when full anyways.

That is a good point that most folks probably don't realize.

I fill my 50 hp range tractors from an elevated tank so my interest is only for gasoline used in the John Deere "lawn tractor" which is easy to fill since the tank is under the hinged seat and has a large cap with translucent tank and other small engines on generators, trimmers, saws, etc. I still prefer the 5 gallon tanks made a few years ago with the stem that stores upside down in the tank and has a tight snap cap for the end when full plus a vent cap in the rear. The flow can be easily controlled by a finger over the vent hole. Who would ever think such a simple device would be regulated out of existence as have so many others.

 

[JDgreen227]

I have many 5 gallon and 2.5 gallon cans of the old squared off "Chilton" brand cans with the yellow spouts and separate vents. How I wish I had purchased more of them before they became unavailable or at least purchased a half dozen of the spouts that fit those older cans as I have two or three with damaged spouts. Has anybody priced these older cans on Ebay--I have, and the prices are quite high.

I am quite sure these cans are the type pacerron refers to...they worked great and lasted forever.

 

[aczlan]

I have many 5 gallon and 2.5 gallon cans of the old squared off "Chilton" brand cans with the yellow spouts and separate vents. How I wish I had purchased more of them before they became unavailable or at least purchased a half dozen of the spouts that fit those older cans as I have two or three with damaged spouts. Has anybody priced these older cans on Ebay--I have, and the prices are quite high.
I am quite sure these cans are the type pacerron refers to...they worked great and lasted forever.

Go up across the border to Canada and pick up some brand new "old style" cans up there. No need to buy someone's old leaky can off of Ebay that way.

Aaron Z

 

[robs660]

I went no spill on my 50:1 two stroke mix. For the tractor and zero turn I use a funnel and take the whole nozzle off. The opening for my zero turn is 4" across.

 

[pacerron]

I have many 5 gallon and 2.5 gallon cans of the old squared off "Chilton" brand cans with the yellow spouts and separate vents. How I wish I had purchased more of them before they became unavailable or at least purchased a half dozen of the spouts that fit those older cans as I have two or three with damaged spouts. Has anybody priced these older cans on Ebay--I have, and the prices are quite high.

I am quite sure these cans are the type pacerron refers to...they worked great and lasted forever.

Those are the ones
I have 3 red ones with one good nozzle left.
2 blue ones with 1 good nozzle left which I use to totally drain my big diesel tank every couple years. The little leak that develops at the screw on cap when tipped can usually be fixed by making a thin gasket from paper/cork gasket sheets. A piece of old innertube also works. There is probably a billion dollar market for the yellow nozzles in this country but I imagine illegal to sell them anymore. Before long we probably won't be allowed to fill them at a service station or haul them in a pick up.. I usually spill more messing with the "Blitz" type no spill nozzle than I ever did with the old ones.

 

[LBrown59]

This is my spill proof spout.

 

[clemsonfor]

Looked on ebay at prices of old type cans. Found a guy selling the acordian old style spouts with no device and the little cap on them, brand new old stock. Set of 3 for $29.99 and $6 shipping!! says there on back order and will ship end of may??? If you had an old stock i understand even if you had 50 cases of them or say 500 pieces. But "backordered"? Is it possible hes haveing them made and imported from china and black market selling?