Need New Dishwasher Info

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JD435Bill

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Our old Sears Kenmore Dishwasher finally quit. It lasted 23 years. Other than one warranteed small problem, it ran trouble free for 22 years.

I like Whirlpool products and am looking at a new Whirlpool at Lowes. It got good reviews, but one of the negatives is a Long Cycle time. It seems like it takes a little over 2 hours to cycle through.

My question is, what is the normal cycle times for Dishwahers these days. Is 2-plus hours a lot compared to others?

It has a 1-hour reduced cycle selection, but one of the reviews stated that it didn't clean good enough this way.

Any info would be appreciated.

Bill
 
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Just one point in general -
If you are installing it yourself the "big basket" ones go REAL close to the floor. I had great difficulty getting mine wired and plumbed, compared to the standard size I'd taken out.
 
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DW's used to be nice machines. Now they are JUNK.
You really need to spend big money to get something worthwhile
nowadays but do NOT buy European!

Just last week I installed a very expensive BOSCH. OMG...
The tabs that you screw it to the countertop? JUNK! Maybe
as thick as 4 pieces of paper they were! The bottom is
PLASTIC so if you set it on tile or hardwood IT SLIPS AND
SLIDS AROUND, now couple that w/ the flimsy tie down tabs
and you have JUNK! You can spen a lot of time making it plumb
and square to the world and first time it gets closed hard
the unit MOVES...OH MAN...it is VERY sad.

BUY AMERICAN, spend as much money as you can if you want
a decent machine. Get a unit w/ a full SS TUB, NOT ALL PLASTIC!
Oh man...I so loathe new DW's! THEY even charge EXTRA nowadays
if you want all the parts necessary to do the install! Nowadays the
water connection is a Female HOSE CONNECTOR x 3/8" MIP Comp.
90* fitting! MAKE SURE YOU GET IT or you will be running to the
store again for parts! They charge extra for the "Install Kit" LAUGHABLE...

GOOD LUCK!
 
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Look at the GE brand. One with the pot scrubber cycle. You will be pleased with the results
 
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We recently replaced our working dishwasher with a Samsung because it matched the fridge. I miss two things from the old one: water heat and delayed start.
I agree with earlier poster concerning how close they can be to the floor. Plays a role in both the installation and the loading/unloading.
 
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Appreciate the replies.

I'll check on the clearance issues as I will be installing it myself. I heard about that different connection too, I'll have to check on that. I'll check on the Full SS Tub as well.

The one I'm looking at has a Delayed Start, but I don't believe it has Water Heating. My old one had that too and we really liked that feature.

All good questions to ask when I go back to Lowes.

How about the Cycle times. Is 2-hours a lot?


Bill
 
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We have a new Maytag. We had it 2 weeks and there was a recall...the heating unit was subject to catching the house on fire. Otherwise, I hate the **** thing. It is quiet, but the digital crap is just that...crap.
 
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We've had Gaffers & Sattler (2 of them; one 1972-77 and had to replace the motor and pump seals; the other 1977-89 with no repairs), Kenmore (1995-97 still OK when we sold the place), GE (1997-99 replaced when pump and motor would have cost almost as much as a new one), Maytag (1999-2002, still OK when we sold the place), and now have a KitchenAid. The KitchenAid was made in 1999, we bought this place with it already here in 2005. There's really just no comparison. The KitchenAid does a better job and is far, far quieter than any of the others. But would a new one be as good? I don't know.

Cycle times are 10-14 minutes for rinse only, which my wife never uses. 64-97 minute cycle times depending on how heavy, which setting you use, etc. So the simplified answer is an hour to an hour and a half, and my wife probably never uses a setting that runs much more than an hour. So 2 hours sounds like a lot, but maybe not unreasonable.
 
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JD435Bill said:
How about the Cycle times. Is 2-hours a lot?

Bill

We now use the "heavy" cycle regularly - which takes at least two hours. Although the thing is so quiet, we don't hear it at all, so it's not a bother.
 
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Everyone has their preferences and I suspect most are based on prior experience. Before moving 2 yrs ago I had installed a Bosch washer. No problems with the install or its operation, this was in an older home. When the current DW goes, Bosch will get serious consideration again. Not the cheapest, our was a mid-line model and on sale cost us about $700. The Bosch's have a plastic tub under them. Any leak develops, the pan catches the water and with the water sensor, shuts the machine down until fixed. The Bosch's don't have a heated dry cycle the steam/moisture condenses on the SST tub. Energy savings. Oh, the machine was all but impossible to hear, very quiet.

Prior to the Bosch we had Whirlpool's. Last one rusted out the tub in 2 places, way up high and all but impossible to see. Before I figured out what was wrong, we lost a good sized section of the kitchen laminated floor. For us, no more porcelain steel tubs, SST or plastic and I'm not keen on the plastic.
 

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