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Hi Matt,

If you can swing it the L39 is a much better deal - 5 years newer, a lot less hours, QA bucket, although the 35 has a 3 in one bucket - not sure how that differs to a 4in1?

The L39 looks clean too, and worth the 5K difference I would think. For what you are doing these units will serve you well.

Carl
 
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I love my B26 which is pretty much same as B21 with more HP. I dont think with the size tires on the front of these tractor you would get a big weight increase. I doubt they would hold much more than 5 gallons of water each. With BH on rear, you really dont need to load the rear tires for traction although it would tend to help stabilize the tractor a bit I suppose however the tires are pretty small on these tractors so you arent going to get a lot of water weight.
I agree on needing a bit more power and sometimes I wish I have more reach and more umph to the back hoe but then I think back to why I wanted the B26 which was small compact, gets into tight spots etc. and realize that it does a good job for those thing. I sometimes end up with my LS parked beside me when using the BH. I dig a big pile of dirt out and then park the B26, get on the LS 7010 and move it all quickly. I think it would take 4-5 FEL bucketload with the B26 to equal 1 with the LS. Perhaps one day I will use the Kubota to fill the LS bucket and just see what it takes not to mention triple the power. After being on the B26 for a while, then getting on the LS is like looking down from the roof of my house when operating it.
 
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hmm, I had never heard of that before. I'll look into it....
I see on TBN that folks claim their tractor manual / dealer says not to load fronts as it is too much strain on the front end causing everything from worn steering joints to world hunger. Personally if I wanted to load the fronts I woulddo it and dont believe that 50-100 pounds per wheel is going to substantially load anything or over load. My B 26 has Front tire: 23x8.50-14 / Rear tire: 12.4-16 and neither of these size tires is going to add a substantial amount of weight expecially on the front compared to a bucket load of wet gravel or sand. Ballast in tires is not really weight on the axle as much as weight on the tire. For instance, if you put on a solid steel tire of the size on your tractor, would the axle weight on the tractor increase? No it wouldnt, the tractor weight would still be supported at the axle just same as if it has a wooden or rubber tire. Turning the front wheel would be a much harder with all that weight but with standard tires on CUT's you wont be putting that much more force on the steering loaded or not.
That is all just my opinion, not backed up by anything other than common sense and fact that we ran loaded front on all our farm utility tractors and never had any issue of worn tie-rods or loss of control on highway with water sloshing or whatever other reasons that you hear on TBN for not loading tires.
 
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I see on TBN that folks claim their tractor manual / dealer says not to load fronts as it is too much strain on the front end causing everything from worn steering joints to world hunger. Personally if I wanted to load the fronts I woulddo it and dont believe that 50-100 pounds per wheel is going to substantially load anything or over load. My B 26 has Front tire: 23x8.50-14 / Rear tire: 12.4-16 and neither of these size tires is going to add a substantial amount of weight expecially on the front compared to a bucket load of wet gravel or sand. Ballast in tires is not really weight on the axle as much as weight on the tire. For instance, if you put on a solid steel tire of the size on your tractor, would the axle weight on the tractor increase? No it wouldnt, the tractor weight would still be supported at the axle just same as if it has a wooden or rubber tire. Turning the front wheel would be a much harder with all that weight but with standard tires on CUT's you wont be putting that much more force on the steering loaded or not.
That is all just my opinion, not backed up by anything other than common sense and fact that we ran loaded front on all our farm utility tractors and never had any issue of worn tie-rods or loss of control on highway with water sloshing or whatever other reasons that you hear on TBN for not loading tires.

yeah, that is what I would think also...that the fluid in the tire doesnt really put the equivalent amount of weight onto the axle per se....
and yes, I bet the weight isnt that much anyways on such a small tire.

I understand why you like your B26. I really was surprised by the 21, and after a few days of working with it I really appreciated how tough it was.
 
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I replied to one of your other threads. I'm glad to hear that you are progressing in regards to improving your property. Best Wishes.
 
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I replied to one of your other threads. I'm glad to hear that you are progressing in regards to improving your property. Best Wishes.

I need to go see what other threads I started, and do any updates.
we got the concrete pad poured, and I have pic's....
 
   / deciding on earthmover... #18  
If you rented a B21 and liked it, thats what I'd be looking for. I'd think you could get a used for within your budget.
 
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I had a kioti ck20 a few years back. Very light in front with backhoe on. Had front tires filled but that didn't make a difference. Tires are not big enough to put enough weight in them to make a difference. If you are planning on getting one of the machines you are looking at they are balanced very well with the one seat operation. The backhoe doesn't sit back as far as other models. I personally wouldn't fill rears either. I filled mine on my L45 (rears) thinking i would be doing a lot of work with backhoe off, but very well balanced with backhoe on. I never take the backhoe off except to use 3pt hitch. Just my option. You do what would work best for you. Nate
 
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If you rented a B21 and liked it, thats what I'd be looking for. I'd think you could get a used for within your budget.

I agree completely actually.
However, my wife and mother are hoping I can rent myself out with the tractor for odd jobs, and think it is better to be safe and get something bigger....
I argued a little bit with them, but darn it if that wasnt a losing battle, lol.
I looked at prices for the L35 and noticed it wasnt much more expensive than the b21's, and for a much bigger and more powerful machine...so I kinda figured it was no big deal and just to look for the 35's in the area.
Advantages of the B21 are the HST tranny and being able to manuever around in tight spaces. Not sure, but this might be really nice on our land.
I'm still in negotiations stage with the both of them, ha ha
 

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